Has Whooping Cough Evolved Around The Current Vaccine? Reflections On The Current Scientific Evidence

Posted on April 10, 2012 by

Reblogged from The LymphoSite:

Summary

Whooping cough is a potentially deadly infectious disease. While vaccination against it has managed to significantly reduce the incidence of the disease, it still remains a global presence.

Recent coverage in the mainstream media and from anti-vaccine proponents has suggested that the whooping cough bacterium has evolved around the current acellular vaccine. Such reports occurred following publication of…

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See, this is why I love it when people who know what they are doing do their stuff. I love seeing a truck driver reversing her truck with precision. Seeing a footballer practise their craft with perfection is pretty cool. But, when someone investigates false claims about a life-saving vaccine, then, well, that's got to be up the top. This post is amazing. It is more amazing than my horse.
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Dangerous homeopath SLAPPS Dan Buzzard

Posted on April 5, 2012 by

Dangerous, dishonest homeopath Francine Scrayen has gone for the last refuge of a health scoundrel. She has issued a cease and desist to Dan Buzzard:

Francine Scrayen sends me a Cease and Desist.

This is the same homeopath:

Penelope Dingle’s sister is suing the homeopath who persuaded the cancer victim to ignore conventional treatment in favour of fighting the deadly disease with alternative medicine.

The case made national headlines in 2010 when State Coroner Alastair Hope held an inquest into Mrs Dingle’s death, finding that her husband, Peter Dingle, and homeopath Francine Scrayen had played important roles in the decision.

Full article from The West Australian, here.

As I’ve said elsewhere, all my best wishes are with Penelope Dingle’s family in their action against Scrayen.

Francine Scrayen, after being shredded by the WA Coroner (courtesy Perth Now)

Hopefully Scrayen’s action against Dan will bring her despicable behaviour under greater public scrutiny.

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For the herd: the shot and the shirt

Posted on March 29, 2012 by

I had My Fluvax today. I am proud to get immunised.

Getting my annual flu shot significantly decreases the chances that I will become a vector of transmission for my elderly mother, her friends, my kids, their friends and family, and other vulnerable people in my community.

I was at greater risk of hitting a wallaby, on the way to and from work, than from this injection.

Like I said: I am proud to get immunised. Because, it’s not about me.

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Meryl Dorey’s other Pertussis Lie

Posted on March 24, 2012 by

In the last week Meryl Dorey of the anti-vaccination organisation, the Australian Vaccination Network, has provided another interview for the infowarrior online radio program Fair Dinkum Radio. I won’t go into the whole 39 minute shambles, as I think someone else may have something up his sleeve (nudge, nudge etc). It is an extensive piece of misinformation, the like of which we have come to expect from Dorey, well practised in her whole cloth narrative which misinterprets factoids , often deliberately.

What I would like to focus upon is one particular claim from Dorey, which can be heard here, courtesy of my favourite black, cast-iron flying pig (note: Fair Use under Copyright Act 1968):

Meryl Dorey discusses Whooping Cough deaths (35 second grab)

…the child that died a couple of years ago, in New South Wales, was the first death from Whooping Cough, in over a decade, um, in Australia…

Now, my ears pricked up at that comment, because I’ve heard it before. Lots of people have heard it before. In fact, Meryl Dorey has stated that claim a few times. But: is it true?

Of course it isn’t true. But, the worst part is: Meryl Dorey knows it isn’t true; and she has acknowledged that it isn’t true.

Back on July 4 2011, Dorey responded to this article from the Sydney Morning Herald. This screenshot shows Dorey’s comment, shared to her followers on the AVN Yahoo! Group:

"There had been no deaths at all from whooping cough for well over a decade before the first reported death in 2009"

Without even double-checking most knew that this was, well, bullshit. It’s great that Meryl Dorey makes these public, testable pronouncements. It’s also great that people hold to her to account for these demonstrably wrong claims.

Before she was banned from the AVN Facebook page, Kathy McGrath did just that: Kathy pointed out that Dorey’s claim was wrong, and Kathy backed it up (from July 15 2011):

Dorey is not only wrong, but, she is also devoid of compassion for the families of children who have died, as shown in the next screenshot.

Here is some more of the same thread:

So, Dorey stated she was "sorry for your loss", yet, with the complicity of Bugges, turns this into a debate about "respect", the harm from vaccines, and the awful SAVN. Read their comments again. And, then, read them again.

My good friend Kate had a closer look at Dorey’s claim, at the time, and did up a quick montage showing the depth of Dorey’s research skills. Dorey’s flawed claim, reliant on Dorey’s flawed memory, was based on her flawed reading of the Northern Star newspaper. Her claim is not based on any research, the type of which she claims she has conducted for the last twenty years.

Arrows mine

All I can really add is that this is just another example of deliberate misinformation from a person who claims that she isn’t anti-vaccination; doesn’t misinform; sources all of her information from the peer-reviewed literature; has a brain; and, isn’t a liar.

Meryl Dorey is a demonstrable liar; and she continues to lie to prop up her flailing anti-vaccination organisation and their agenda against childhood immunisation.

Many thanks to Kathy, Kate, and Paul for their input into this post.

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These criminal assaults happen all the time in Australia – or, do they?

Posted on March 14, 2012 by

When you make a claim, you need to substantiate it. This is an ongoing problem with the anti-vaccination movement who are known to rely on anecdotes and testimonies often only backed by a recollection of something bad they heard about that happened at some stage, where and when they can’t exactly remember, but, it was criminal and it always happens.

I just received an email which prompted me to revisit an Australian Vaccination Network Facebook post, from two weeks ago.

Hmm. How much of this comment is true?

Criminal activity! It happens all the time in Australia too. It is time that people who do these things are held accountable for these assaults.

Courageous, anonymous AVN Facebook Admin B52 is making some pretty strong claims, here, right? I mean, there will be some evidence to substantiate B52′s comment, which will be produced to vindicate the outrage; and other AVN Admins will produce it, right?

The article linked by B52 is here. I’m not going to get into it, because Orac had already given it the insolence it deserves. Needless to say, it is one hell of an anti-vaccination screed extrapolated from an event which just should not happen: children should not receive a vaccine without the appropriate consent from parents or guardians, period. As Orac notes:

The mother in question, Sighle Kinney, is misguided and wrong. However, the law is the law, and the law says that she is allowed to refuse to let her daughter be vaccinated. As a result, as much as I disagree with her, I can understand why she’s upset.

But, how does this relate to us, Down Here, and, more importantly; how does the AVN portray the school vaccination program?

Here is the NSW School-Based Immunisation Program 2012. Here is the first requirement:

Free vaccine is only available to students who have a signed parental/ guardian consent form and who commence the vaccine course while they’re in Year 7 or (as described in the table above) Year 10.

So far, all good. Of course consent forms are required. This is a mandatory administrative task, as it should be. Only kids who have signed consent forms can get the vaccine; and schools are strict about this, as attested by a friend who administers vaccines to schools. This is also attested by any school administrators. But, sometimes, things don’t go to plan. Sometimes. One such case has been abused by Meryl Dorey for some years:

Meryl Dorey has been bringing out this anecdote for years

There are a variety of claims made by Meryl Dorey in the above comment. Dorey has never provided any information substantiating these claims (remember this bit). Dorey’s autism causation claim is just wrong; given the lack of occasions where this type of error happens, it is safe to say that Dorey’s claim that “mistakes will ALWAYS be made”, is wrong (regardless of CAPSLOCK); Dorey’s claim that an “entire school” was vaccinated without consent is wrong; and, Dorey’s inference that the law doesn’t “take this seriously” also is wrong, as we shall see.

Thanks to courageous, anonymous AVN Admin RR some light was finally brought to the anecdote. RR provides some substance to the anecdote; finally. It was one class, not a whole school:

You see, it's everyone else's fault if they can't find the source you are deliberately and coyly refusing to post, for years.

Well, “provides” isn’t the precise word. We had to find it for ourselves, because, you know:

New court for school jabs case.

BY By Catherine Anderson.WC 151 wordsPD 22 April 1999SN Hobart Mercury … SC MRCURYPG 10LA EnglishCY (c) 1999 Davies Brothers LimitedLP

A MOTHER who is suing over the immunisation of her son without her consent is expected to transfer the legal action to a Tasmanian court. Janet Cragg, of Lutana, had lodged legal action against federal Health Minister Michael Wooldridge and the Hobart City Council in the Federal Court in Hobart.

However, Mr Wooldridge has been dropped from the action in the Federal Court and yesterday leave was granted to discontinue action in that court.

Counsel for Mrs Cragg, Jonathan Nolan, of the ACT, told the court he would be proceeding against the Hobart City Council for negligence in the Supreme Court of Tasmania.
The case arose from an incident last May when 23 year 1 students at the Immaculate Heart of Mary School in Lenah Valley received triple antigen injections and oral polio vaccine without parental consent.

(C) 1999 Davies Brothers Limited.

So, this happened in 1998. This was fourteen years ago; so, it doesn’t happen all the time. A whole school was not vaccinated without consent. There was one class whose guardians did not receive permission slips (yes, they should not have been vaccinated without these). One mother was outraged, and believes that vaccines caused her son’s autism. This one mother took legal action (sounds like it was taken seriously, to me). This all sounds to me like Meryl Dorey has trouble getting anything right. Let’s see how she responds to courageous, anonymous AVN Admin RR’s correction (remember that substantiating your anecdotes bit from earlier, okay?):

Oh, I was mistaken with that Tasmanian "whole school" anecdote I have been using for years? Here, have another: this time we'll change States...I'll get back to you...

So Meryl Dorey had an intimate knowledge of this case, having been in contact with the Tasmanian mother who intitiated the legal action*. But, after all of these years Dorey couldn’t get her story straight about the outcomes preferring to continue to spread the misinformation, even after correction. This is why we need to question everything Dorey states. Often there is more to every event than she claims.

Back to the email which reminded me to revisit these events: today I received a reply from the Hobart City Council regarding my questions surrounding the events outlined in the Hobart Mercury article. There are no records on AustLII, or in the media, as to any further court cases or litigation:

Proceedings were commenced in the Federal Court, but were ultimately discontinued by the plaintiff.

Kind regards

What? That’s it? But, what about courageous, anonymous AVN Admin B52′s comment which sparked off the whole thread?

Criminal activity! It happens all the time in Australia too. It is time that people who do these things are held accountable for these assaults.

“Criminal activity!”?

- Not that anyone has seen here, and it has been before courts.

“It happens all the time in Australia”?

- Bullshit.

“It is time that people who do these things are held accountable”?

- It sounds like they were. Maybe if there had have been any evidence of injury, then, they would have faced even more sanction than a discontinued legal action.

“these assaults”?

- well, at least B52 didn’t go all vaccination is the “rape of a child” on us. That would be barking mad.

*As an amusing aside, the lawyer representing the Tasmanian mother ended up being an ex-lawyer, who has a penchant for frivolous defamation proceedings of his own, which look remarkably like a SLAPP attempt.

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Playgroups and unvaccinated children: Meryl Dorey wrong…again

Posted on February 25, 2012 by

I meant to write about this the other day; but, hey, it’s been busy.

Earlier last year, I wrote a post on the Skeptic Bros site: Reasons to get school disease exclusion information from your school, not the AVN. The post showed that Meryl Dorey and her Australian Vaccination Network cannot be trusted to provide information on school exclusion policies. That’s not really anything new. I struggle to find Dorey providing any accurate information; so, why start in schools? Hell, why even start in pre-schools? Hell, why even start in playgroups?

Here is a question posed on the AVN Facebook page in regard to immunisation status and playgroups; what can they do, or not?

Hi there, I recently went to join my 13 month old to our local playgroup. Upon reading the terms and conditions they have stated that any unvaccinated children will not be permitted to join. Can they do this? Thanks Kellie

Hey! Good question! This is, indeed, the sort of information young mums and dads need to know when embarking on their child’s organised group setting activities. This is a time when accurate information should be provided, by an organisation which prides itself on informed choice.

Here is Meryl Dorey’s reply:

Dammit, can you not get anything right?

Just once I would like Meryl Dorey to provide an accurate answer to a simple question.

Oh well, a patron of the Stop the AVN page did look it up. Here is what was found on the Playgroup Australia website:

Infectious disease outbreak

In the event of an infectious disease outbreak, unimmunised children could contract the disease and contribute to its spread. For the protection of their own health, these children may be excluded from attendance at Playgroup.

The Co-ordinator of the Playgroup must notify the Director of the Local Public Health Unit (listed under Health in the White Pages) of all cases of vaccine preventable diseases.

The decision to exclude children from Playgroup will be made by the Director of the Public Health Unit.

Seriously, Mrs Dorey: start researching before you offer information and make claims which show how much you don’t know. How do you know which children are “unimmunised”? You ask them on enrolment; that’s how. The Playgroup has a duty of care to “protect” unimmunised children. Remember that word: p-r-o-t-e-c-t. I know it’s foreign to anti-vaccinationists.

As a Saturday Night bonus, if anyone hasn’t seen this finding from the Australian Human Rights Commission, I suggest reading through the whole transcript. It shows how unvaccinated children can be excluded from enrolling in pre-school and childcare centres. It also shows how anti-vaccinationists cling to poor expert witnesses who like to show how wrong they are. It is also funny because Greg Beattie lost.

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Did the OLGR rely “completely” on the HCCC Public Warning to revoke the AVN’s CFA?

Posted on February 25, 2012 by

I’m not going to delve into the recent decision in the NSW Supreme Court, finding that the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission did not have the jurisdiction to investigate the Australian Vaccination Network, due to the narrow terms under which the Commission could investigate. Dr Rachael Dunlop has written up a brilliant post, here, outlining the wash-up of the findings. This is the Public Warning which the Commission was forced to withdraw; not because the Commission’s findings were wrong; nor that the complaints were “invalid”, according to Meryl Dorey; but, because the Commission could not show that an “individual” could be produced by the Commission (or Dorey) to show that AVN misinformation had affected the health choices of that individual.

It may have been rescinded due to a technicality, but, it is not wrong

It appears Meryl Dorey does not or will not understand the reasons for which her organisation’s Charitable Fundraising Authority (CFA) was revoked by the Minister responsible for the Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing (OLGR). Indeed, Dorey appears to be deliberately misinforming her followers, and everyone else, as to the reasons the CFA was revoked:

Um, no it didn't; and you know it.

This document contains a Schedule of Breaches found by the OLGR during their investigation of the AVN. It is extensive. The HCCC Public Warning was taken into account under the reasons given, but, the list of breaches published in the document has no relevance to the HCCC investigation. Dorey has a lot of questions to answer. Hopefully the questions will end up being asked under oath.

So: did the OLGR rely “completely on the HCCC Warning to revoke the authority”? Well, no. Not by a long shot.

Here is the Government Gazette of the Minister’s decision. Have a good look for the acronym “HCCC”. I can’t see it for some reason.

Nowhere in the Schedule of Breaches is the HCCC mentioned.

So you don’t need to search through the OLGR letter, here is the Schedule of Breaches found:

You will note that the breaches are slightly more serious than "the wrong size collection tin" as stated by Dorey

...and...

 

...and...

 

...and...

 

...and...

 

...this is where it's getting serious...

 

...seriously prickly.

So, the Schedule of Breaches does not even allude to the HCCC investigation, or the HCCC Public Warning. Good luck with that.

Hopefully Mrs Dorey will show this to her followers, just like she has done all along, right? She has, right?

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Fran Sheffield declares the Australian Vaccination Network “anti-vaccine”

Posted on February 25, 2012 by

An interesting comment was posted on the Australian Vaccination Network’s Yahoo! Group. In the comment Fran Sheffield, owner of Homeopathy Plus, calls for Meryl Dorey to be honest about the true intent of Dorey and her Australian Vaccination Network. Like the bulk of anti-vaccinationists, Dorey demands that she is not anti-vaccine. Honesty suits Fran. She should try it more often:

I think almost everyone, supporters and non-supporters, believe the AVN is antivaccine in spite of its protests to the contrary.

How can they do otherwise when 99.9% of information about vaccines released by the AVN is anti or reveals their problems? When there is not explanation why this imbalance exists?

It is possible to be BOTH anti-vaccine and pro-choice but when the anti-vaccine label is denied in the face of evidence to the contrary, it makes us look dishonest – something the judge hinted at with her ‘coy’ statement? It also places our pro-choice position in the back seat, out of people’s minds.

As far as public opinion goes, I don’t think the anti-vaccine position is the problem – they can cope with that.

The problem is that most people, even supporters in secret, now believe the AVN is dishonest and this has caused the AVN more harm than anything else. This is what will take a long time to get over, not any perceived anti-vaccine stance which they can respect even it they don’t agree.

Do we have a blind spot?

If the AVN wants to be perceived as being a truthful organisation then it has to proudly accept the anti-vaccine label or do something that explains (repeatedly) why most of the information it provides about vaccines and vaccine promoters is negative.

I love the info that the AVN provides so people can make an informed choice – and I want it to survive – but I can’t tut tut about them calling us anti-vaccine and I hate feeling as though I have to support the deception.

Dishonest…coy…dishonest…deception. You go girl.

I would have added “disingenuous” as well as many other terms to indicate that a deliberate ruse was at play.

Own it, Mrs Dorey.

 

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The fraudulent DMCA filing, free speech hypocrite: Meryl Dorey

Posted on February 20, 2012 by

In the past, Meryl Dorey has fraudulently used the DMCA take-down as a tool in silencing her critics. Dorey was caught out that time: she refused to substantiate her claims of copyright over screenshots of posts she made on Facebook. Dorey had lodged over 50 fraudulent claims, knowing that Facebook would act first, punish those who had posted, and, then, do nothing with counter DMCA claims showing that screenshots were permitted under Fair Use provisions under both US and Australian law.

Scribd, much to their credit, were on the ball. Counter DMCAs were lodged against Dorey’s fraudulent DMCAs, and Scribd took them seriously, restoring all content which had been removed due to Dorey’s mendacious activities. Dorey refused to substantiate her copyright claims, when asked; and Scribd acted.

Well, Dorey has been at it again. Several people on the Stop the AVN Facebook page have received DMCA notices. When a liar cannot answer their critics, censorship is all they have left: startling hypocrisy and dishonesty from an ideologue whose mantra is free speech. Here are two DMCA take down notices I received this morning:

Can't have anyone showing that the AVN state the very opposite of a link they post

and

This one was a screenshot of Dorey's open invite for everyone to join her in court

I’ll leave you with Meryl Dorey’s own take on this sort of behaviour. This is from the time the Age of Autism Facebook page was taken down for some reason.

THE BASTARDS. THE BASTARDS STOP AT NOTHING, RIGHT?

Using your own definition, Mrs Dorey, you are one big fat hypocritical bastard who’ll stop at nothing to silence her critics.

And, you have no idea how strong, resilient, and determined we are to ensure the community is aware of your bastardry.

Update: February 21 2012

More DMCA take-downs have been lodged overnight. Here is my latest:

All of the nice terms used in the text are words uttered by Dorey about people with whom she disagrees

And here is the original screenshot: a comment by Dorey on her recent blog post:

RESPECT HER AUTHORITAH, NAZI SCUMBAGS

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Jumping the Brownshirt Nazi Godwin Shark, with Meryl

Posted on February 19, 2012 by

An astonishing thing happened today. It was much like any other day. The sun was out, for a while, at least. Coffee smelled great, as usual. The kids argued, like kids do – that didn’t last long; there were parties to attend; lunches to be had.

Then this happened.

Meryl Dorey compared the plight of childhood infectious disease advocates, like herself and Stephanie Messenger, to the French Resistance:

Working from the shadows, they found ways to circumvent the fascist dictatorship that ruled their countries.

New Yorker Dorey tells us, invoking the Spirit of the ANZACs:

Over it’s almost 225 year history, many Australians have fought and died in wars which were supposedly to protect freedom – whether the freedom of Australians or of our allies.

But, it’s all under threat:

…by members of the Australian Skeptics and their splinter organisation, Stop the AVN. These organisations, science’s Brownshirts, are blatant in their opposition to freedom of speech and freedom of communication.

They want to take away our voice, burn our books and destroy our right to choose.  Just as the original Brownshirts wanted to blame the Jews for the institutional failures of Nazi Germany…

Okay, this is parody, right? Unfortunately not. This is par for the course for the Health Freedom Warrior who refuses to answer questions, in lieu of accusing her critics of atrocities: accusations which have been shown to be wrong, libellous and immature.

Dorey continues with a list of “illegal” activities which have been carried out against her:

1-    Contacting the venues and telling them lies about the organisation and people involved in an effort to get the venue to cancel contracts.

Erm, no. Venue owners have been contacted telling them that they are hosting an anti-vaccination organisation which has a Public Health Warning, and a loss of Charitable Fundraising Authority (with more to come), against its name. Then, they can decide for themselves.

2-    Putting ads in local papers in opposition to these seminars or appearances.

So what? It’s our personal money used to place advertisements alerting the public to the facts of the AVN.

3-    Targeting the event even if the vaccine safety group is not the organiser but simply the participant to try to get them to cancel the appearance (as evidenced by the recent Woodfordia Festival kerfuffle).

Asking questions about Woodford Folk Festival’s decision to give credibility to a “threat to public health” is entirely appropriate. Especially when that threat is touted as an “expert”. We’ll do the same next year; and every year after that, if need be.

4-    Spending massive amounts of money (from where?) setting up stunts such as hiring an airplane to circle the venue towing banners.

Here we go: the Big Pharma conspiracy. The aeroplane cost $2800 to tow a banner. Over 30 people chipped in their own money to pay for the exercise. I couldn’t afford it; but, I chipped in any way. I was not alone with my financial duress, I can assure you.

5-    Intimidating attendees in advance by stating they will be there to ‘set the record straight’, implying a confrontation between themselves and the people who are coming to hear the speaker.

Implying what, exactly? Everything is a threat to anti-vaccinationists, except when they are the ones doing the threatening, of course. This accusation from Dorey is old and tired. Maybe Dorey should ask her friend Judy Wilyman what Judy thinks of contacting venue owners?

So, what prompted this dishonest, offensive, hysterical, paranoid, conspiratorial screed from the keyboard of Dorey? Why, a defence of her long-time friend Stephanie Messenger, of course. Messenger and Dorey appear to think they have a protected right to lie, without consequences.

Stephanie Messenger is carrying out a tour of misinformation at this very moment. She was in Brisbane, yesterday*. She is doing New South Wales over the coming weeks. Luckily, we now have a transcript of Messenger’s Brisbane seminar with which to warn the media, community, and Public Health units in Katoomba and Wollongong.

Messenger has taken to some strange tactics to hold her seminars, as investigated here by Drunken Madman. Dorey lists the precautions taken for the clandestine, underground nature of the promotion of the seminars:

1. There were no tickets sales at the door.

2. All tickets were sold on-line or by credit card prior to the event.

3. No location was revealed until the night before the seminar – the only details were that it was held within a certain number of kilometers of a central location.

3. Mobile phone-numbers were required at the time of booking.

4. The venue location was notified by SMS the night prior to event.

Thanks to Orac for pointing this out to me: but, do you know who else has used the above tactics for their recent tour of the US? David Irving: Holocaust Denial liar.  That’s right: anti-vaccination liars are now forced to undertake the same clandestine tactics as Holocaust Deniers, to be able to spread their misinformation, unhindered by silly things like facts and ethics. It is apt that this is now the case.

Dorey finishes off with some more legal opinion, from her own special dictionary:

In this way, she was able to keep not only herself, but those who came along to hear her speak, safe from the threats posed by these two groups.

Going underground is a valid and intelligent way to deal with those who break the law with the full cooperation of those who are meant to uphold it.

If we can’t rely on the police or the government to protect us from persecution, we have to take matters into our own hands and find ways to work around the institutional abuse apparently approved at the highest levels of our society.

Yes, Mrs Dorey: you are being “persecuted” by the Brownshirt Nazi Skeptics who ”break the law”, obviously in ”full cooperation” with the “police or the government” who are carrying out a program of “institutional abuse” in an effort to get you to answer for your public claims. This is “approved at the highest levels of our society”.

Here is another one of your 2009 quotes, Mrs Dorey:

While we are already seen as rabid, idiotic fringe-dwellers by so many in the mainstream, it does our argument no good at all to bring in conspiracy theories which, though we may subscribe to them, are unprovable.

Get a grip.

Finally, here is Dorey’s reply to a comment on her blog post. Nice.

Really, Meryl, I mean it. Get a grip.

*much thanks and kudos to the courageous and strong-stomached Skeptimite, who attended the Brisbane Messenger seminar.

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