Anti-vaccination liar Meryl Dorey and her special band of harpies at the Australian Vaccination Network can’t help themselves. Like maggots on carrion, or white people on a Christmas turkey, they caw over the carcass of any mention of public health hero, Dr Paul Offit. They are envy vultures. They wait for something to be lied to death, then they swoop down and lie some more, just to be sure the flesh is rotten with lies. Then they have a lie-feast.
Here are the facts about what Dr Offit has written about infants and the administration of thousands of vaccines at once.
Dr Offit has stated, on page 174 of his 2011 book Deadly Choices, that due to the bacterial bombardment to which babies are subject every day, theoretically, based on modelling, babies could tolerate 100,000 vaccines worth of antigens, such has the antigenic load in vaccines decreased over the years. He has never stated that babies could receive 100,000 vaccines, nor has he ever advocated it. Here is the passage:
That’s that out of the way. Pretty straight forward, right? No way. Given that lying about Dr Offit has been the rotten bread and butter of the global anti-vaccination movement for years, what came after the posting of this lie was predictable:
The courageous, anonymous AVN supporters chimed in. This first one is conspiracy theorist Liz Hempel, under a fake account:
She was soon joined by other courageous, anonymous AVN supporters:
Of course no one was “running scared” of Wakefield. Dr Michael Fitzpatrick took up Wakefield’s challenge, and Wakefield ran like the wind. When that was pointed out to the AVN the poster was duly banned from commenting, and the information deleted. Caught out lying, again, there is only one option for anti-vaccination liars. Lie some more.
And, so, the rabid, idiotic fringe-dwellers move on to the “10,000 vaccines” lie. As you have already seen, above, Dr Offit never advocated any such thing. He used a theoretical model to allay fears about the number of antigens in modern vaccines, so as to show how much an infant could tolerate. Anyone who considers his analogy as something seriously advocated would be barking mad, right? Right?
You bet. And, the chief barker, Meryl Dorey, would be “happy to administer them to him…”
So, we have a thread based on a lie, in which the AVN is caught out lying, evolving into another lie, in which the leader of an organisation, which is a Health Service Provider, and holder of a Charitable Fundraising Authority, is offering to administer what she believes to be a fatal dose of vaccines, all mixed into the same syringe. And this is proposed so as to make a point against someone who never advocates that for which he is accused (“he is ready, willing and able to say that our kids should do it” – Dorey). I repeat: this Strawmanning stunt is being perpetrated by a Health Service Provider. How much more needs to be done to rid the community of this infection?
Look, we’re not surprised. There are too many instances of Offit slurring on the AVN page to include here. Dorey herself refers to him as “Dr PrOffit”, which is the common slur used against him by liars worldwide. This one from a few years ago is still my favourite. It show the AVN at their finest. They don’t just want him to suffer; they want to be 12-year-old girls while they’re at it (apologies to 12-year-old girls):
I hope the HCCC is watching the AVN page very closely, every day. If they aren’t, they should be. It would be a travesty if the Australian Vaccination Network were not held to account for all of their actions, on all social media fora.
I seem to recall a law in Commonwealth nations, where if someone attempts to deliver that which they believe is lethal to another person, it is a crime.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to see a certain cretin attempt such a thing?
It would most certainly put one idiot off of the map.
Unless you let convicts use the internet and accept charitable donations while they are serving their prison sentence.
She has challenged others to the vaccine challenge before. When they accepted, and she was challenged to set up her stunt, including the procurement of vaccines and staff, and ethics approval, she ran away. Brave Sir Meryl. Just like Brave Sir Jock Doubleday, who also ran away away.
I’ve made the offer and was told it should be at my expense. Oi the back peddling.
There are ways around the ethics approval. While she may not dispense any medication without a proper license, she can administer any medication under the nominal supervision of certain medical health care professionals.
The ethics would then be upon her, with evidence of her lack of ethics being her perceived belief that she would be intentionally poisoning another.
The only real downside is that she could use the defense that any medical professional would never prescribe a poison for her to intentionally administer and the risk to said professional’s license on ethics grounds.
Of course, the entire thing falls apart anyway, as there are not 10000 vaccines. Indeed, there are not 1000 vaccines available for humans.
And her argument falls apart as well, as some nations, in particular the US, administers many vaccines in one sitting to their military personnel.
The last time I checked, as alert personnel with special medical duties, I received on the order of 20 vaccines in a single day.
Felt like hell that evening, felt great the next day when everyone else felt poorly.
What makes the lie even more egregious imo is that Meryl Dorey knows that she wouldn’t be able to a) get the vaccines dispensed and b) be able to administer them.
It’s great to be able to stir your acolytes into a frenzy knowing you’ll never ever have to do what you say you’d like to do.
That does raise a point.
Though she would not be able to get the vaccines dispensed, a physician could do so and she administer said vaccines under the supervision of said physician.
While the supervision may not always be physical, she would have a potential defense against an attempted poisoning charge in that one would not reasonably expect a physician prescribe a poison for another to intentionally administer to another.
Especially given the level of hypocrisy she’s already displayed, it’d just be business as usual and an additional claim that charges could not “stick” due to the validity of her claim of intentional poisoning by the government due to the grand conspiracy of the space aliens.*
*My usual reference to most conspiracy theories.
If this hypothetical event could ever take place, and the subject naturally survived with no ill effects, she would likely argue that she obviously wasn’t supplied with real vaccines to administer. If the outcome is positive, the reason is always conspiracy. “Heads I win, tails you lose.”
Just more evidence that AVNers, from the top down, don’t have any idea about the immune system: its capacity, what strengthens or weakens it, how it works, what it does… All those years of reading, but no comprehension.
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Someone’s offering 100,000 dollars for anyone prepared to have the full schedule of vaccines administered in one go?
Really??? Where?? Sign me up!
I said I’d accept it too, and got a reply from MD: I had to organise everything. Yes, that’s right. Her “challenge” has stood for so long yet she doesn’t know how they’d be procured, doesn’t know how they’d be administered, does’t know how the entire thing would be controlled, organised, arranged. I always thought the person issuing the challenge had to actually have a faint idea how it might be done!
I’m starting to sound like a scratched record, but thanks for the blog.
Excellent and succinct.
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^What Stephen said:)