Updated: Why does NSW Fair Trading swallow the lies of the AVsN?

This will be a quick post. I had meant to write something about this months ago.

The Australian Vaccination Network was ordered to change its deceptive name in 2012. It appealed the order and lost that appeal in 2013. It was thenceforth to be known by the still deceptive – yet not as much – name, Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network.

The AVsN changed its name on many of its fora. It fought hard to weasel its way out of its obligations, with several reminders being sent to the AVsN to comply. It was extraordinary how the compliance checks needed to be carried out by citizens – who then notified the appropriate departments – and not the government departments charged with these tasks.

Since the enforcement of the name change came into place the AVsN have steadfastly tried everything to worm their way out of changing their Facebook page’s name. They know the Facebook page is the most accessed, and the most user-friendly for their task of disseminating anti-vaccination lies. Facebook is big for liars. It gets the most hits, and it casts the biggest net.

Astonishingly, New South Wales Fair Trading have accepted a monster of a lie from Meryl Dorey and her cabal: that being that the AVsN gave the Facebook page away, and that it is no longer owned by the AVsN. Here is an August 2014 letter from NSWFT to a complainant, stating precisely that:

AVN 6859 DFT letter name change

Anyway, I thought I would quickly check and screenshot two AVsN fora to show how easily NSWFT could have found out that the AVsN is lying. It must be noted in passing that the main Facebook page administrator using the AVN Facebook account a month ago was Meryl Dorey. And not only by a nose: Dorey was controlling the page, same as she ever was.

This is a screenshot of the AVsN’s official Twitter page. It was always the AVN’s official Twitter page, and it says as much in the descriptor:

AVN 6856 Twitter official pageThe official Twitter page was always linked to the AVN’s official Facebook page. Check out the timestamp for the vaccines-cause-autism lie in the screenshot.

Now, using this screenshot taken from the AVN Facebook page (immediately after), we see that precisely the same vaccines-cause-autism lie appears on the page. The timestamp is the same, even down to the minute:

AVN 6857 Facebook page timestamp sameChecking these two pages off against each other, and perusing the timestamps took less than twenty seconds. It is obvious that the AVsN is in control of both accounts – Twitter and Facebook – and that the claim that they no longer own the Facebook page is an outright lie put forward to deflect any further regulatory and disciplinary action which would surely come the AVsN’s way – continuing to breach orders against claims set out in the Public Health Warning is only one of the ongoing flagrant breaches carried out by Dorey and her cult. It is amazing that the very vaccines-cause-autism lie used above is, in itself, another breach of the findings set down by the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission in the Public Health Warning against the AVsN.

Getting back to the evidence for the claim by Dorey and her cult that the AVsN no longer own the page, I wonder out loud how the claim was tested by NSWFT. This is the AVN Facebook about page:

AVN 6858 about pageWe can see they still link to the all-important money-maker, the “AVN” shop, and the cashflow-sustaining “AVN membership”. And the page still links to the main AVN URL. They changed a couple of “us” and “we” into “them” and “they” as well. And the sockpuppet who now ‘owns’ the page has set up a gmail account as a contact (a contact which doesn’t issue replies). What other evidence is there that the AVsN, and Dorey, no longer control the Facebook page? This:

This page is owned by and managed by a long-time fan of the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network but it is not the responsibility of that organization.

And

Company Overview

This page is owned by Ben Rush, a long-time fan of the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network (AVN), Inc.

Stick a fork in me and turn me over I’m done.

This is an organisation which is practised at deception and non-compliance, callousness and cruelty. And NSW Fair Trading rolled over and said it was all too hard, and took the word of a cabal of anti-vaccinationists over a bit of digging. Twenty seconds work could have shown them the AVsN are lying, again. But it’s all just too hard.

And you know what makes it stink even more? Four months before the above NSWFT hand-wave, NSWFT notified another complainant that they had contacted Dorey, and that Dorey had advised NSWFT that the Facebook name would be changed:

AVN 6860 April letter from DFT DoreyThe Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network and its lead ideologue Meryl Dorey continue to lie to government departments such as NSWFT, and regulators such as the NSW HCCC; and yet here we are. Nothing has been done. The AVsN is still free to lie to parents, with nothing but disdain for those who should be holding them accountable.

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Thanks very much to those who provided letters included above.

Update August 31 2014

I wanted to wait until the end of the month of August, which is now, to add this update. For some time since it became apparent that NSWFT had swallowed the lies of Meryl Dorey hook, line, and sinker, that neither she, nor her organisation – of which she is the public officer and landlord – are the owners of the “AVN” Facebook page, I have been meaning to manually count the original administrator posts on the AVN Facebook page. Well, I’ve counted the AVN admin posts.

The huge bulk of the Facebook posts are posted via the AVsN’s Hootsuite account. There is no point attempting to work out which liar with access posted from there. I’ve included the Hootsuite posts in my manual count; but, really, it might be all Dorey’s work on Hootsuite, or none of it might be Dorey. One thing is for sure, the Hootsuite account is an official AVsN account, even having once been linked to Dorey’s own Facebook profile. The Hootesuite account is indeed still linked to the AVsN sister page – where posts from Hootsuite are cloned – Seriously Concerned About Gardasil; or as I much prefer to call it, SCAG. As you can see, Dorey is still a SCAG admin, along with a vicious sockpuppet (Payne), and an AVN stalwart (MJ Vassallo). Missing, you will notice, is one Ben Rush:

AVN 6867 Dorey Payne admins of SCAGSo, back to our admin posts. I have created four tables to cover the last four months, which takes us back in time to the publication of the HCCC’s Public Warning against the AVsN (on April 30 2014).

I’ll let everyone work out the ratios for themselves. One thing which stands out like a beacon of truth: Meryl Dorey, the public officer of the Australian Vaccination skeptics Network, is the predominant Facebook page administrator. Indeed, the new “page owner”, *cough* Ben Rush (BR24), has made one post in four months. One. Post.

Here is August 2014:

AVN 6862 August admin postsHere is the table for July 2014:

AVN 6863 July admin postsHere is the table for June 2014:

AVN 6864 June admin postsAnd, here is the table for May 2014:

AVN 6865 May admin postsOver to you, New South Wales Fair Trading. Do you still believe the word of Meryl Dorey when she claims that someone else, a sockpuppet who has only one recorded post to its name in four months of manual counting, “owns” the AVN Facebook page (apart from Facebook, who owns the AVN Facebook page)?

This is almost into the realms of Yes, Minister.

Update September 23 2014

For those who have been following the incessant charade being played out by Dorey and the AVsN, I wanted to include this last excerpt from a NSW Fair Trading Association Extract, printed on July 31 2014, and obtained by Stop the Australian (anti) Vaccination Network.

This document clearly shows that Meryl Dorey is still the Public Officer of the AVsN; and by acting in this role, and on AVsN social media, she is also acting as an official spokesperson of the AVsN. Remember, Dorey is not operating on the AVsN’s Facebook page as “Meryl Dorey”; she is operating as “Australian Vaccination Network”. She is not operating on the AVsN’s Twitter account as “Meryl Dorey”; she is operating as “@nocompulsoryvac”:

AVN 6878 Meryl Dorey still Public Officer as of July 2014 Fair Trading statement

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0 Responses to Updated: Why does NSW Fair Trading swallow the lies of the AVsN?

  1. DS says:

    Get onto it DFT. It’s your job. They never intended to comply.

  2. Stephen says:

    Once a liar always a liar.
    Fortunately she is treated more and more as a joke.
    It is unfortunate, however, she still influences innocent parents by promulgating debunked fiction.

  3. The long term success of this dishonest, callous group is down to the long term inaction of the governing bodies. When is someone going to do their damned job and make them comply with the law, and furthermore, actually fine them for not doing so?

  4. They haven’t tried very hard to change the website – all the ‘Join’ and ‘About’ pages and links still refer to them as the AVN.

  5. @advodiaboli says:

    Yes. Dorey et al have done the absolute maximum to continue waving “AVN” and smirking at Fair Trading on the back of childish lies. Just like refusing to publish CRP retraction notices – above the evil law.

  6. Andy says:

    What do these public servants get paid – and how much do they earn? I suspect there’s a big difference between those two figures.

    But what I really wonder is why the public servants and MPs don’t seem to care? Why do they hold these positions as regulators and law-makers if they don’t care about regulation, laws or compliance? What, exactly, do the public servants do in between cups of tea?

  7. Where is the protection of the public that these regulatory bodies are supposed to uphold? What is the point of regulatory bodies who do not want to regulate? The AVsN are not a small, fly-by-night organisation. they have had an income that is in to several millions over the years, and have enjoyed all of that tax free whilst thumbing their noses at the regulators.

    Time to act NSW Govt – Fair Trading, Gaming and Racing, and the Dept of the Attorney General.
    FFS, people have been taken to court for lesser transgressions that this.

  8. Doug says:

    Can we start naming the inactive public servants of the relevant department? No defamation, mind you. Just the facts that they are the ones in the responsible positions and that, to date, no action has been taken.

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