2015 anti-vaccine tour of Australia – the Tenpenny caravan of hurt

Anti-vaccinationists have their own anti-Hippocratic oath: first do harm. First and foremost they must evangelise, like any fundamentalist organisation. First and foremost they must persuade vulnerable parents – those sitting on the fence – that vaccines are dangerous, poisonous, unsafe, untested…you know the drill. Time and again they are shown to be nothing but brazen liars; not by people who merely disagree with them, but, by evidence.

We have just been advised that US anti-vaccine campaigner Sherri Tenpenny is coming to Australia to do a series of seminars with a host of other anti-vaccine campaigners. Among them is Isaac Golden, the homeopath recently torn to shreds in the Federal Court, in the humiliating Homeopathy Plus! case. That’s quality information for you right there.

If you haven’t heard of Tenpenny, she’s one of the leaders of the global anti-vaccine cult. She’s like the duchess, to Barbara Loe Fisher’s queen. She is right up there. This article gives a pretty good run down on her as an inductee into the Encyclopedia of American Loons.

I don’t have many stored screenshots of Tenpenny because she is so consistently barking mad it never takes long to find evidence. For example, this very recent post should send shivers up and down the spines of every health minister and health department in Australia. Tenpenny exclaims:

print this and hand it out to your friends, family, teachers and healthcare workers!

Tenpenny 2 10 Reasons not to vaccinate See the shares under that post? 2515 shares. Most of them wouldn’t have read it, much less understood it; but, the point is, she has some sway at the top of the cult. And she’s coming here. I want to include the 10 Reasons from that blog post so you can gauge the quality of the reasons Tenpenny deems worthy of dissemination to healthcare workers, family etc:

1. Vaccines have never been proven safe or effective.

2. Vaccines do NOT work.

3. The very first vaccine was a disaster.

4. Vaccines are highly profitable for pharmaceutical companies and the health care industry.

5. All vaccines contain a number of toxic poisons and chemicals that are linked to serious neurological damage including aluminum, thimerosal (methyl mercury), antibiotics, monosodium glutamate (MSG) and formaldehyde. [seriously, read that again – ed]

6. Every study comparing unvaccinated to vaccinated children demonstrates that unvaccinated children enjoy far superior health.

7. Vaccines cause a host of “chronic, incurable, and life threatening diseases,” including autism, asthma, ADHD, auto-immune disorders, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, food allergies and brain damage.

8. The only way to create true life-long immunity to a disease is through natural exposure to the disease in which the body creates true antibodies and immunity on many levels.

9. Vaccines kill infants, children and adults.

10. If you or a loved one suffers from a vaccine injury, pharmaceutical companies and physicians hold no medical liability.

Every time I see “10 reasons” somewhere I immediately think of the execrable article written by Meryl Dorey which was the foundation of the first finding against the Australian Vaccination Network by the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission, in 2010. Her 10 Reasons were so bad she removed them from her site. The 10 Reasons above are way worse than Dorey’s.

Tenpenny, an osteopath – which in the US is an equivalent qualification to an MD. Joe Mercola is also an osteopath; maybe there’s a trend there – is also not averse to ragging out on members of the medical profession, for innocuous reasons. In this juvenile attack she likens a doctor to a “Reptilian” for merely expressing a valid opinion that health workers have an ethical and professional responsibility to their patients to ensure they have an annual influenza immunisation:

Tenpenny 1 reptilian doctor attackAnd we’ve seen the company Tenpenny keeps, before:

DeMoss 133 Tenpenny and Wakefield at CalJam DeMoss the full-blown conspiracy theorist chiropractor is even more effusive in his admiration for Tenpenny, here:

DeMoss 74 Tenpenny CalJam Look, I can’t speak for any of you. But, if someone of the calibre of Billy DeMoss is showing me the love seen above I’d need to pack up, go home, wash, and take up drinking again. So, what do we do? We have someone coming to our country who is a clear menace to public health and safety. We need to let every health minister know. We need to let every health department know. And, because you can put money on the venues being unaware of just what is happening on their premises, write to the venues politely requesting they investigate fully the people they are hosting, and the possible repercussions for the health of our babies, our children, and our community. A friend kindly put this list together:

BIRTH, BABY & BEYOND

Melbourne – Sunday 1 March, Bayview Eden [CANCELLED]
Email: bayvieweden@bayviewhotels.com

Melbourne (dinner) – Saturday 28 February, Amora Hotel Riverwalk [CANCELLED] 
Email: [redacted at]amorahotels.com.au

Brisbane (seminar and dinner) – Sunday 8 March, Michael’s Oriental Restaurant & Function Centre [CANCELLED] 
Email: info@michaelsoriental.com.au;  lauren@michaelsoriental.com.au

Sydney (seminar and dinner) – Saturday 14 March, Concord Function Centre [CANCELLED] 
Email: info@concordfunctioncentre.com.au

RAISING HEALTHY CHILDREN NATURALLY

Adelaide (seminar and dinner) – Tues 3 March, Rydges South Park [CANCELLED]
Email: reservations_southpark@rydges.com;  stam_archontoulis@rydges.com

Gold Coast (seminar and dinner) – Wed 11 March, Quality Hotel Mermaid Waters [CANCELLED] 
Email: mermaid.waters.resort@alhgroup.com.au;  cara.flannery@alhgroup.com.au

Sydney (Sutherland Shire) – Sunday 15 March, Kareela Golf Club [CANCELLED] 
Email: contact@kareelagolf.com.au

If anti-vaccinationists reach the logical conclusion of their aims, more babies die.

Update December 30 2014

I had a pretty good inkling of this yesterday, but, now I’m certain; one of the main organisers behind the GanKinMan Foundation, the organisation holding the series of anti-vaccine seminars,  is none other than Stephanie Messenger, the author of that vile book written for children, Melanie’s Marvelous Measles. On Messenger’s publicly viewable Facebook profile she advises she is emailing flyers:

Messenger 8 email for Tenpenny tour flyerOn December 22 she shares the GanKinMan website:

Messenger 10 GinKanMin Foundation photoAnd on December 16 she puts out a call for singers at “upcoming” events:

Messenger 11 singers for events neededThe community needs to know who is behind this tour of hurt. It is already  extremely concerning that Tenpenny is coming here to misinform parents. Knowing that Messenger is behind it should have venue owners barricading their premises to keep them out. And if the two names featured above – as well as the disgraced homeopath Isaac Golden – weren’t bad enough, the Sydney lie-fest also features US anti-vaccinationist Norma Erickson, the head of the anti-Gardasil organisation, Sanevax. They’re the ones who consistently claim deaths have resulted from HPV immunisation, although there have been none. It is a lie. They are liars.

Update January 5 2015

I want to include some new information about the organisations – and there are many, all run by Stephanie Messenger – which has been coming to light, which we can now bring to you. I should say instead that this information has not been easily forthcoming, the circumstances of which we argue should now be in the hands of the regulators. Given that there has been higher than usual traffic on this post, due to readers accessing the contact details of venues, I want to include a full excerpt from the Diluted Thinking website, an astonishing read in itself:

Organisers

Payments for seminar tickets go directly to Stephanie Messenger and NOT the advertised organisers and please note that Both advertised organisers are controlled by Stephanie Messenger.

Get Rid of SIDS Project Inc

The Get Rid of SIDS Project Inc is a Queensland-based charitable association founded by Stephanie Messenger. According to its regulator, the Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission (ACNC), Get Rid of SIDS Project is 9 months late in submitting its annual return. And please note that this charitable association which is organising these anti-vaccination seminars around Australia, is also a Deductible Gift Recipient meaning that donations to it are tax-deductible.

GanKinMan Foundation

The GanKinMan Foundation does not exist. It is not even a registered business name with ASIC: gankinman.com was only first registered on 3 November 2014. What I can tell you about the GanKinMan Foundation is that it is run by Stephanie Messenger. A health website forum has a post from a supporter of Stephanie Messenger which contains the text of an email sent by Messenger around 2 December 2014 plus the flyer (word document) that was attached to the email. The flyer was advertising a range of goods for sale (including tickets to the seminars) from Messenger’s other unincorporated groups “Healthy Lifestyles Naturally” and “Vaccination Awareness & Information Service”. NOTE: whilst Messenger runs these two other groups, ASIC shows that both are Queensland registered business names by her husband, Leslie Bailey. Neither of these groups is incorporated and therefore have no legal status. To order goods the flyer instructs consumers to:

email your desired order to stephanie@naturematters.info – You will be emailed the postal charges (or you may pick up in Cleveland if you prefer).

You can then do an E.F.T. to BSB 032-563 A/C # 371362 Name on Account: GanKinMan Foundation. Your order will be shipped within one week. Seminar E-tickets will be emailed to you.

So there we have it. Payments for goods (including the seminars) on behalf of Messenger’s “Healthy Lifestyles Naturally” and “Vaccination Awareness & Information Service” are to be deposited into a bank account in the name of “GanKinMan Foundation”. In addition to this, an email received from the domain name of gankinman.com originated in Brisbane (QLD), a From: field in the header shows the term “StephaniePC” and its attached pdf document shows the the author as “Stephanie” in the document properties. I must stress that no published information from GanKinMan Foundation – its website, seminar advertising or emails – provides the name of any individual. To further confuse consumers, the GanKinMan Foundation facebook page made a series of posts on 3 January 2015 advising that:

“We have teamed up with the Get Rid of SIDS Project, Inc. – a registered charity doing research and education about Sudden Infant Death Syndrome – Come along to support the charity and cause, and hear what the team have been up to lately.”

Payments for Seminars

A PayPal receipt for the purchase of a seminar ticket shows the merchant as “Healthy Naturally” with an email address of stephanie@naturematters.info. This email address belongs to Stephanie Messenger. There is no registered name for “Healthy Naturally”. Unless you were already familiar with Messenger, it is not immediately obvious that Stephanie Messenger is involved. An email in regard to changes to a ticket purchase originated from the gankinman.com domain and did not provide any contact names.

Consumer Protection

There are now a number of major concerns for consumers in how Stephanie Messenger is selling and advertising goods for sale:

  1. Messenger is trading under the unregistered business name of “GanKinMan Foundation”. As far as I know, even a name used for a personal hobby must be registered with ASIC if it’s trading (Non-registration aside, the size and scope of the seminars and dinners might stretch the ATO‘s definition of a hobby);
  2. Messenger is using a registered charity (Get Rid of SIDS Project Inc) in an apparent attempt to lend legitimacy to an unregistered and unincorporated body;
  3. Use of the word “Foundation” is potentially misleading because use of the word “may create a public perception of substance, stability and integrity” even for a legitimate registered charity (NSW Fair Trading);
  4. No GanKinMan Foundation publications (website, emails, advertising) provides the names of any individuals involved with it;
  5. Messenger is intentionally hiding her association with GanKinMan Foundation in regard to the seminars;
  6. Messenger is promoting her seminars as being run by a legitimate charity and a group ‘masquerading’ as a charity without advising at any stage that payments will be made into a bank account operated by herself and not in the name of the advertised organisers (with the exception of the abovementioned flyer).

Note: according to Messenger (re: the flyer), a bank account does exist in the name of “GanKinMan Foundation”. Whilst it is possible that tickets purchased through PayPal are deposited into this account, consumers are led to believe payment has been made to the entirely non-existent entity of “Healthy Naturally”. In short, Messenger appears to be trading under an unregistered business name, misleading consumers as to who/what is in receipt of the funds, is using a registered charity to lend legitimacy to a misleadingly named non-entity, and is using a registered charity to sell goods where payment is made to account/s operated by herself and not the charity. The size and scope of the seminars may generate substantial income if well-attended. For example, a couple attending the Sydney seminar plus dinner at the best table will have to pay up to $612. Tickets for the Birth, Baby and Beyond seminars alone range from $80 to $100 and tickets for the Raising Healthy Children Naturally are $39. Tickets for the dinners range from $100 to $200. Consumers have a right to know exactly where their money is going and especially when charities are being used to promote and sell goods for sale.

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49 Responses to 2015 anti-vaccine tour of Australia – the Tenpenny caravan of hurt

  1. Jo Alabaster says:

    Reblogged this on Evidence, Please. and commented:
    Sherri Tenpenny, US anti-vaccination campaigner, is scheduled to tour Australia participating in a series of seminars across the country. Please read this post from Reasonable Hank and if you are so inclined, consider politely contacting the venues who are scheduled to host her events to ensure that they’re aware that they’ve booked a public health menace. Links to contact the venues are at the bottom of the post. Thank you.

    • Patrik F says:

      Thanks Jo.
      Contacted the venues and Re-wrote your comment on my FB page to urge my friends to lobby to cancel their bookings.

  2. wzrd1 says:

    Sorry, but I can’t help at all.
    Regrettably, the United States of America lacks an exile option.

    Oh, wait.That would’ve helped my nation, not yours.
    Perhaps someone in Australian counter-terrorism can put a bag over her head and transfer her to Antarctica. Preferably, far from all of the sparse habitations, just to protect those few residents there.

    Still, the very first “modern(is) era” vaccination *was* utterly untested. It seems that a good scientist was approached and begged him to give little Joey Meister his “cure” for rabies, as little Joey was bitten by a rabid dog.
    Of course, the very first vaccination was going on in the Ottoman Empire and ignored by western “medicine” (read; bleeding, leeching, metallic mercury, you know, quackery medicine (it’s a real term of the time, used in regards to thought correct treatments of venereal diseases)).
    The vanishingly rare, as in rarer than the unicorn, species did visit, that species being called Good Fortune and the child did do that which other rabies bite victims failed to do, he survived uninfected.
    Well, back then, good fortune was beyond endangered species, it was largely considered extinct. 😉
    Today, it’s only an Endangered Species. 🙂

  3. Christine Bayne says:

    I prefer to call it the “Terror Australis” tour.
    I wish Tenpenny and Erickson the best of luck with their visa applications.

  4. mopa1976 says:

    Please don’t tar all osteopaths with the same brush. Osteopathy Australia is extremely clear in its position on vaccination as I’m sure the American osteopathic association is also. Just because a member of a certain profession decides to think otherwise doesn’t mean their professional colleagues also hold that position, remember Andrew Wakefield was an MD, so do we blame all MDs for the birth of the anti vaccination cult.

    • As I say in the post, Tenpenny is a DO in the US. As is Mercola. DOs are more likely to tend toward alt med than MDs.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Osteopathic_Medicine#Education.2C_training_and_distinctiveness

      I’m not talking about Australian registered osteopaths, although there’s still some work to be done there with non-evidence-based treatments.

      • wzrd1 says:

        With respect, I cannot endorse the view that osteopaths are, well equal to “insane” chriropaths”, which is somewhat the current view from my seat.
        Here, in the US, osteopaths were previously known as a bridge between the chriopath and general medicine. Said bridge is now vast, where the chriopath will avoid manipulation in favor of experiencing plague.
        My own previous, though fired physician was of that sort. He was fired due to refusal to both abide by his documented treatment plan *and* refusing to offer opioid narcotics that a cardiologist insisted said medication should be applied.
        Yeah, it was *that* serious.
        Our new physician blanched at my blood pressure, but insisted upon certain tests. She’s since re-avowed her insistence.
        I rather like her. She’s a bit behind the curve on our train wreck condition, but she’ll observe and learn, due to her insistence.
        Annoying side, having to pay for a fuckton of blood tests that may, very literally, remove food from our plate.
        But, such is life in the land of the second amendment.
        Or something.*

        *Full disclosure, I personally own and possess a full dozen firearms.
        Annoyingly, half of those were inherited and of dubious worth.
        See self-disassembling firearm for an example. Saturday Night Special as another (though, one *will* remain in my collection, due to historical worth, I fully reserve the right to create an unfirable condition upon that singular weapon.
        Personally, I’m an aficionado of slow rate of fire, precision shooting. We especially *hate* “high rate of fire maniacs”
        Volume of fire being something entirely more precise and specific.
        Again, it involves precision fire.
        Which is *why* we refuse to join the NRA.

  5. @advodiaboli says:

    Reblogged this on Losing In The Lucky Country and commented:
    If I was a certain type of nincompoop I might argue that Sherri Tenpenny coming to our shores is “un-Australian”. Or worse, an affront to “Team Australia”.

    In reality her own history – and her devotees – underscore the problem here. Tenpenny is a very unpleasant, dangerous and monumentally dishonest person. I’ve written about Isaac Golden (at least) here and here.

    You can gather everything else you need to know from Hank’s post.

  6. Jared says:

    GanKinMan hey..
    “The name ‘GanKinMan’ Foundation, was inspired by three historic greats:
    Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr. and Nelson Mandela.”

    I wonder if the families of these three legitimate people would be insulted, offended, or legally provoked by the use of these names in a dishonest misleading & deceptive way.

    Also interesting to note that this foundation, the organisers of the event are engaging in misleading & deceptive conduct.. Mr Golden might want to be careful, or scared, given that he was a star witness for a misleading & deceptive Homeopathy Plus! with their nonsense about vaccines. Might not be a good idea to again, step into the misleading & deceptive ring.

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  8. Craig Welch says:

    Note that tickets for this dinner do not mention that real agenda at all: https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/dinner-with-dr-sherri-tenpenny-special-guests-gold-coast-tickets-14952638745

  9. ProVac Mom says:

    You are using anti-vac logic (i.e. non logic) in trying to connect being a DO with a higher propensity to believe/endorse woo. Two osteopaths out of thousands is not even close to a trend. Correlation is not causation. You could just as easily say that DO’s are better at finding ways to self promote than MDs. Most DOs practice medicine alongside MDs in the exact same way…using evidence-based medicine. You most likely wouldn’t even be able to guess which was a DO and which was a MD. Tenpenny and Mercola don’t get to define the title. Please don’t help them along.

  10. tuxcomputers says:

    “You can then do an E.F.T. to BSB 032-563 A/C # 371362 Name on Account: GanKinMan Foundation.”

    The bank does not care one jot what “name” you fill in when doing an EFT, all they care about is the BSB and account number. You could fill in “Lying Antivaxers gotta lie” as the name and the money would still end up in the account.

    • Indigo the Cat says:

      I know a couple of Nigerians who like bank account numbers. Similarly, Russians with encryptobots could be very happy to have her email addresses in their hands.

  11. I am sure that the estates of Dr. King and Mr. Mandela both have foundations that legally protect the use of their names and images. You can get into a lot of trouble abusing the integrity of the dead. What is needed is a lawyer with copyright expertise who can follow up on this.

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  14. Erika says:

    anyone who spreads pseudoscientific, anti-vaccine nonsense should be held accountable for the death, sickness, and pain they cause. They should be held financially responsible for the costs of their intentional ignorance.

  15. jacksonstaub@xtra.co.nz says:

    Hey guys, we’ve got Tenpenny trying to preach her garbage in Australia soon. Be an awesome help if you could give us a hand in creating a movement against her Cheers ‪#‎stoptenpenny‬
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-Sherri-Tenpenny-from-entering-Australia/1392245137742000?fref=nf

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  18. Suzy says:

    An osteopath is not equivalent to an MD (a medical doctor) in the US or anywhere else. I don’t know where you got this information from but it is misinformation and incorrect.

    Tenpenny is a quack. She calls herself an ‘osteopathic medical doctor’. This is like saying a ‘homeopathic medical doctor’, a ‘naturopathic medical doctor’ or a ‘massaging medical doctor’.

    She is an alternative medicine practitioner, with no formal medical training, and no understanding of medicine.

    • In the US a Doctor of Osteopathy is equivalent to a Doctor of Medicine.

    • wzrd1 says:

      As Hank said below, a D.O. is a licensed physician in the US.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Osteopathic_Medicine
      Our old family doctor was a D.O., one who rejected “manipulation” in favor of, well, evidence based medicine.
      Since we moved, we changed physicians and currently have an M.D. as our primary physician. Our new doctor is slowly getting accustomed to my diagnostic capabilities, though, unlike our previous D.O., she doesn’t dread when I pose a quandary.
      But the, she was getting accustomed to me when I was caring for my father, as she was his physician.

    • ProVac Mom says:

      Please provide some proof that a D.O. is not equivalent to an M.D. in the US. Some sort of citation. A link to a U.S. State licensure website? Or a residency program description would do. One where it specifies that only M.D.s qualify and D.O.’s don’t.

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  21. rosross says:

    By all means work to prevent freedom of speech and oppose Dr. Tenpenny but do not lie. In the United States a D.O. is equivalent to an M.D. Dr Tenpenny is more than qualified.

    Quote: Your doctor: The difference between an M.D. and D.O.

    If you see a primary care physician for your general healthcare, there’s a chance you’re seeing a D.O., not an M.D. While both degrees mean your doctor is a licensed physician, their training differs slightly and each has a unique perspective on care. As Brian Krachman, D.O., an internal medicine specialist at Piedmont Physicians Group, explains, “A D.O. is an osteopathic physician, while an M.D. is a medical doctor, an allopathic physician.”

    According to the American Osteopathic Association, doctors of osteopathic medicine regard the body as an integrated whole, rather than treating for specific symptoms only. Allopathic medicine, also referred to as “Western medicine,” treats disease symptoms using remedies such as drugs or surgery.

    Physicians with a D.O. are licensed in all 50 states to practice medicine and surgery, as well as to prescribe medications. The education for both degrees is similar and both are required to complete accredited medical residencies.

    One major difference is D.O. programs place an emphasis on primary care. “Most D.O.s are in internal medicine, family practice, pediatrics, OB-GYN and general surgery,” says Dr. Krachman. “We spend a lot of time with people. The emphasis – which we call primary care now – is on people.”

    Osteopathic medical schools also require additional classes – between 300 and 500 hours – on the skeletal system and the interactions of your body with diseases. Dr. Krachman says there may be slight personality differences between physicians with each degree, as D.O.s often address medical conditions from both a medical and lifestyle perspective. D.O.s place an emphasis on getting to know a patient’s lifestyle, family and unique concerns, which better informs their medical treatments.

    However, he says patients should not see much of a difference between the two in terms of medical care.

    http://www.piedmont.org/medical-care/living-better1/your-doctor-the-difference-between-an-md-and-do-697.aspx

    Osteopathic Doctors are in fact the modern equivalent of physicians, i.e. doctors who treat the body as a whole.

    • It is stated several times above, as well as in the main post: in the US a DO is the equivalent to an MD. In Australia, an osteopath is not. In Australia an osteopath is equivalent to a chiropractor. Osteopathy certainly doesn’t have the infestation of anti-vaccine quackery which afflicts chiropractic, however.

      • wzrd1 says:

        The D.O. has also moved quite distant from the bovine defecation nonsense of vitalism and spinal manipulation and quite fully into the realm of evidence based medicine.

      • rosross says:

        I saw the corrections but the original claim was that Dr TenPenny was not a qualified doctor and she is. And the fact that an Osteopath in Australia is not an OD in the US is irrelevant and the sort of fact one should check before making claims.

        An Osteopath in the US, Australia, UK is the same thing. Dr Tenpenny is not an Osteopah, she is an Osteopathic Doctor which is equivalent in training to that of an MD.
        Neither does chiropractic medicine have anything to do with this. The fact that you cobble together any medical methodology which is not Allopathic as one simply indicated ignorance and prejudice.
        You will make a better case if you hold to rigorous accuracy.

        • This is what it says in my post. It is what it has always said in my post:

          “Tenpenny, an osteopath – which in the US is an equivalent qualification to an MD.”

          She is frequently referred to as an “osteopath”.

          Feel free to acknowledge this at a time of your choosing.

          You say: “You will make a better case if you hold to rigorous accuracy.”

          I say, “damn straight”.

          • rosross says:

            An Osteopath is a medical doctor in the same way a Psychiatrist is a medical doctor or a surgeon is a medical doctor – all degrees within Allopathy.

          • wzrd1 says:

            True enough, although in the US, osteopathy lagged with the chiropractors in hanging onto vitalism for very long time. It’s only been in the last 30 years or so that that nonsense has ended.

  22. Briantrue says:

    I agree with rosross.If we continue to exaggerate or berate doctors of any kind,allopathic or not we will lose the confidence of the people that back our ideals about vaccination.

  23. wzrd1 says:

    How amusing! Dude, I was in the middle of the frantic software updates during the countdown to Y2K. It’s a shame that you are so abysmally ignorant on the subject, you’d have made far less of a fool of yourself.
    The reason that it was a non-event was due to a multi-industry full court press ensuring that systems were updated to be capable of handling the new date format.
    So, you decry those professionals who prevented problems from happening, due to their success!
    Rather like you decry the success of vaccines, proclaiming some bullshit about sanitation or mutation, neither of which account for the changes.

  24. Somsurat says:

    Hi,
    Could you please remove the email addresss that was posted for Amora Hotel Riverwalk Melbourne.

    As the venue is no longer hosting the function, i believe there will be no reason to keep it on here.

    We do receive a lot of Spams and junk emails at the moment.

    Thank you in advance

    Best Regards,

    Somsurat

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  28. Nicholas says:

    Norma Erickson is my mother. As far as I know sanevax.org is a fraud to get “donations” and personal info from people. I have never seen any ligament business having to do with anything in relations to helping others. Her business is run out of a home.

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