On Sunday August 13 2017, the Australian government launched a campaign aimed at increasing immunisation coverage whilst combatting anti-vaccination misinformation. Called Get the Facts, the campaign features two families who have both lost babies to whooping cough: the McCaffery and Hughes families. Here is the ad:
Toni McCaffery: 93% of Aussie Kids are fully vaccinated.
But it’s not high enough. We need to do more to protect all our kids.
Our baby Dana died from whooping cough. She was only one month old and too young to be vaccinated.
David McCaffery: We lived in an area that had low immunisation rates.
Greg Hughes: Our baby son Riley died from a vaccine-preventable disease. Nothing can bring him back.
Catherine Hughes: But together we can all help to prevent this tragedy from happening to other families.
As was demonstrated, in March, the quote-mining from Hastings and the AVN was egregiously dishonest. This is what was really said by the McCafferys, who had been consistent from day one. From our earlier post:
TONI McCaffery suspects a daycare centre was the most likely point where her daughter Dana contracted whooping cough in 2009.
Dana was just six days old when Mrs McCaffery took her inside the centre while dropping off her four-year-old daughter Aisling.
Just over three weeks later, Dana was dead, her tiny body ravaged by whooping cough.
After Dana died, Mrs McCaffery set up a spreadsheet to track her movements and pinpoint where her baby had been exposed to the disease, narrowing the potential places down to the shopping centre, the school and the childcare centre.
Then six cases of whooping cough were confirmed at Aisling’s childcare centre.
Indeed, the McCafferys themselves have been consistent regarding the source of Dana’s infection from the beginning.
On the fifth day, the whooping cough toxins caused her organs to shut down and Dana had a cardiac arrest. She was only 32 days old when she died.
Nobody knows where Dana was infected with whooping cough. It may have been at her sibling’s school or preschool. A loving relative or friend, or a complete stranger may have unknowingly passed the infection on.
…a week later we found out that there were 6 positive notifications at my older daughter’s childcare centre, where I had taken Dana on one day, and numerous notifications at my son’s school. He started kindergarten. That’s right. On one day, I took Dana out because I need to drop my son to school and daughter to preschool and there was whooping cough everywhere– and I live with that every day. If I had known Whooping Cough was around, I would not have stepped foot inside these places with Dana. I am gutted. We also held a review with NSW Health – and there were no cases of whooping cough in the maternity ward of Lismore Base Hospital. We have never stated that Dana was infected by an unvaccinated child. That is a complete lie and Mrs Dorey should retract it.
I am so distressed I have to do this. But Mrs Dorey from the AVN has just published another terrible article about us…
Enough is enough. We just simply ask the AVN and Mrs Dorey to stop spreading false information about our daughter. She caught whooping cough. She died a torturous death. Leave her in peace and stop misleading the public.
Whooping cough is dangerous; and it is deadly for 1 in 200 babies…
Mrs Dorey and the AVN…please leave my family alone.
Here is how your foregone childcare rebates are being spent – propaganda fronted by well-known mandatory vaccinationists. I wonder if the Health Minister knows that the McCafferys were selective vaccinators in that Dana was not vaccinated against Hepatitis B at birth, which was recommended and funded under the National Immunisation Program in 2009. In other words, “do as I say, but not as I do”. Outrageous. VC
This fact is not even up for debate: Dana McCaffery had the birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine.
Toni McCaffery has never stated that Dana did not receive the birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine.
The AVN continued its lies, then, used its lies so as to provoke its members into contacting politicians, with these lies:
The AVN’s members stated that the deaths of Dana, Riley and others are “propaganda”:
The AVN continued its lies about Dana and the McCafferys:
The chances are – according to Dana’s doctor – she contracted whooping cough while in hospital (because her symptoms started so early). So all this crap about living on the North Coast and being exposed to whooping cough because so many in that community don’t vaccination is just that – crap! The most likely scenario is that their daughter was exposed to whooping cough from a fully-vaccinated person in hospital and, since we know that the vaccinated are many times more likely to be asymptomatic carriers of pertussis or parapertussis, all of this is just more superstitious pseudo-science being pushed by the ignorant to influence the gullible. We see through it though.
More AVN members accused the McCafferys of being part of a corrupt, big pharma cover-up, or “fear propaganda”:
How much abuse and vilification do bereaved families have to endure before those who orchestrate such vitriol are held criminally responsible?
It was a very difficult decision to make a formal complaint to the HCCC. It took us until December 2009 to decide, because we knew it would put us back in the public spotlight. We did not make our complaint public, for fear of further harassment, which has continued unabated. This article demonstrates there is no protection for complainants in this whole process
The subject of our complaint was that many articles published by Meryl Dorey, like this one, contain false information about Dana. This article demonstrates why we made our complaint – and yes, this is distressing and a form of harassment as it is full of false information about our daughter.
We have never blamed any person for Dana’s death. See our letter – we are all innocent victims in this. The ‘victim of ignorance’ is our quote that appeared in the Northern Star. It refers to the fact that despite record levels of Pertussis notifications, no-one knew that this area was in the grip of an epidemic, we did not receive one warning, a warning sticker on Dana’s Blue Book and adults did not know they needed a booster. We have been nothing but respectful throughout this. We do not know where Dana caught whooping cough from – all we know is that it was everywhere we had been.
“Dana had presented to doctors several times before being diagnosed. Her mother said that her only symptoms were a runny nose and possible breathing problems.” – Meryl Dorey
Yes, we stated this. This is how whooping cough starts as per NSW Health Fact Sheet
“She was admitted to hospital with a simple runny nose and only became seriously ill after her admission”. – MD
No. This is dangerously misleading and I plead with any parent, do not delay in taking your child to hospital – 10 minutes later and I would have been resuscitating my daughter on the side of the road. After a positive diagnosis of Pertussis, we went straight to hospital. We have stated in media that she started having little coughs. On the way to hospital she ‘bubbled mucous’ in the car. I was in the back seat. We were not worried at this stage. Once we walked into the ward, 10 minutes within arriving, Dana had her first coughing paroxysm in my arms. She stopped breathing, went blue and needed oxygen. Oxygen was her first form of treatment. She then coughed like that and kept having apnoea attacks up to 10 times every hour throughout the night. It was pure hell.
“She was diagnosed with whooping cough within a day or two of when she was admitted to hospital when a whooping cough diagnosis generally takes 10-14 days to produce a positive result.” – MD
Dana had the PCR test. My doctor called with the positive diagnosis and we drove straight to hospital. Thank goodness this test is so quick and reliable as it means quick treatment, and means people can be treated earlier with antibiotics so they don’t infect others. This statement tears my heart out and is so offensive. My daughter did not survive another 10 days!
Fact: Dana had Pertussis – end of story and no-one should be stating otherwise. She had blood tests every half hour in hospital for goodness sake, so yes we have toxicology results to prove she had Whooping Cough. It satisfied the Coroner; that should be enough for anyone.
“The media and her family reported that her treatments had included blood transfusions;” – MD
Yes. As per latest medical articles, when Pertussis turns fatal, doctors cannot ventilate a child’s lungs because they become like concrete, and the blood becomes so thick. This means blood cannot be pumped to vital organs. The blood transfusions are a last resort to remove the toxin and give them a chance. The other option is a heart/lung bypass machine – with very low chances of success. I was alone, sat down with all the specialists and given two options that I had to make then and there. Dave was driving up and I had not told him of how serious it was as I did not want him to have a car crash. There I was being told my daughter would die and given two choices, that specialists had consulted experts all around the world. I chose the blood transfusion, and you know what, she nearly made it. If you mean to hurt me by implying that I made a wrong choice, you have been successful.
“her heart was twice its normal size” – MD
We have never stated this and it is completely false. We stated on Sunday Night, aired on 26 April 2009, that Dana’s body was swollen. This is called oedema, a sign of multi-organ failure. Dana suffered myocardial dysfunction that means her heart muscle died and she had cardiac arrest due to the strain of the Pertussis. If Dana had made it, and God I wish she had, we were facing future transplants, dialysis and brain damage.
“She had a systemic infection” – MD
She had Pertussis – an infectious disease. What does systemic infection mean? We have evidence of Yahoo forums where Mrs Dorey has made a statement that Dana died of septicaemia. This is completely false and I do not know where Mrs Dorey got this information from. But, many babies that do get Pertussis and develop pneumonia are at risk of septicaemia. Anyone that develops pneumonia is. Doctors take blood cultures every half hour to monitor oxygen and C02 levels. That is why babies are ventilated, because they cannot breathe on their own. If C02 levels are too high, people can suffer toxic shock and die. However, Dana did not have septicaemia.
“none of which are normal with whooping cough” – MD
Actually – these are all complications of whooping cough. As are broken ribs, pneumonia and brain damage. Parents need to know these are risks of the disease. 60% of young babies that catch whooping cough need to be hospitalised. 1 in 200 babies can die. These are facts.
Re: Dana’s medical records.
We stated that Mrs Dorey rang Mr Paul Corben the morning of 12 March 2009 seeking information on Dana – this is her health record. She rang him after seeing the Northern Star article on the morning of 12 March 2009. Mr Paul Corben confirmed in an email to us, which we initiated:
“As discussed on 8 May, when Ms Dorey called me on 12 March seeking details of your daughter’s illness and death, I advised her that while there was laboratory confirmation of Dana’s pertussis diagnosis, I would not be providing to her any details in addition to those provided in the media release as this would be, as she was aware, in contravention of privacy legislation and NSW Health policies. Ms Dorey contended that I had mislead [sic] the public in attributing your daughter’s death to pertussis and in so doing had put all associated information into the public domain. I advised Ms Dorey that she should put any further questions in writing to the Area Health Service’s Chief Executive to be considered under a Freedom of Information request. No request has been forthcoming. I will advise you if I receive such a request.”
We had not made any other statements about Dana’s reported symptoms or treatments – we did not appear on Sunday Night until 6 weeks afterwards. No-one has the right to ask these questions. Come to us and ask permission. This beggars belief, particularly when your husband saw the grief of our family that same day. The public would not have known about Dana’s death only that we allowed it to be confirmed anonymously in a NSW Health media release.
“The NCAHS told me that Dana’s death was determined by using a ‘quick test’. At that time, I was unfamiliar with this type of test but subsequent research has shown me that this is a test which gives false positives up to 100% of the time.” – MD
NCAHS said they confirmed the diagnosis was by laboratory diagnosis. Dana had both PCR and blood culture. Again, there is no debate here. Dana had Pertussis.
Mrs Dorey, in a discussion on your Yahoo forum in May 2009 you stated the following false information:
“I don’t know how or why, but she developed septicaemia – blood poisoning. That is what may have caused the swelling though it’s always possible that steroids were used – that is a common ‘treatment’ for Pertussis and it can cause massive swelling. I would love to get a look at this poor little one’s medical records. But that will never happen.”
“I have been accused of harassing this grieving family by making this call. It is my assertion however that the official from the NCAHS has not only committed a serious breach of confidentiality by informing a third party that I had contacted him; he in fact, has harassed the McCafferys by calling a grieving family to tell them that I had asked for confirmation of Dana’s diagnosis. What possible reason could he have had for taking this action?” – MD
This is false. We met with Paul Corben, Dr Kerry Chant and Chris Crawford on 8 May 2009. We showed them the letters and emails we had received, including the AVN brochure. We expressed our concern at the harassment and fears that people were trying to spin the facts on Dana’s death. We asked a direct question of Mr Corben, and he confirmed that Mrs Dorey had contacted him on 12 March 2009.
He then provided a written email to us on 19 May 2009. I had googled Dana’s name one night, and found the discussion on Yahoo where Mrs Dorey and AVN members were discussing Dana’s death. I emailed him in disbelief and he confirmed the phone call in response.
“I have never phoned them, written them a letter by post, email or contacted them in any other way except for the once which I will describe below.” – MD
This is correct. However, your members and participants have sent mail to our home and emails. We received this email from a regular participant on your Facebook and Yahoo Forums on 19 April 2009:
“Dear Dana’s family, I am so sorry to read of your daughter’s passing. It must be tragic to lose a daughter and I wish you all sympathy and trust that God delivers unto you. We believe that God chose Dana for a reason, perhaps she had passed a test and has been elevated awaiting you. God made us all equal and gave us amazing unique bodies to live in.
We find it amazing that some people firmly believe that God was not perfect. Apparently, according to these people, God forgot to add the heavy toxic metals, pig cells, chicken cells etc that are found in vaccines. I choose this subject because your whole website seems to be pointing the finger at vaccines, or lack thereof for your daughter’s tragic death. How can you be so sure ? Do you have so much faith in the financially pressured drug companies to outstrip God that you do not doubt them at all ? Have you done any research into vaccines and seen the reason why so many people will not tolerate injecting their families with toxic muck. Do you have justifiable logic to discredit all their fears ?
I am sorry, but I believe Dana passed away because of different reasons than you claim. All the same, please accept my sympathy for your tragic loss.”
However, the basis of our complaint is the false information you yourself have published about Dana: An initial e-newsletter that one of your members emailed to my sister-in-law soon after Dana’s death; The Fear Factor article; Numerous online discussions on your Yahoo forum where you have made false statements about her treatment and cause of death and referring to Dana as the ‘baby that supposedly died of Pertussis’ – including at seminars confirmed by attendees.
We have also seen terrible letters sent to Internet forums and to media outlets from your members and participants of your Facebook group. These are a sample:
“Dana did not die from Whooping Cough but of complications from. Why weren’t all the details of her death told in the story, like what treatment was she given, was her temperature suppressed so that her immune [sic] could not function as nature intended etc”
“Why don’t you look at the big picture and look at more reasons why this child died. One question you could ask is, what poisons had already been injected into Dana’s little body, which possibly compromised her immune system…What did the toxicology report say, was there one performed?”
“Toni, you seem quite indignant that anyone is daring to question your beliefs in the religion of vaccinology. I would have thought that it is incumbent on you or anyone else who is seeking a very costly heightened “awareness campaign” about the dangers of pertussis to provide evidence of vaccination efficacy and safety. In other words put up or shut up! It is irrelevant to me whether or not Dana died from pertussis or something else, it’s simply not relevant to the debate surrounding vaccine safety and efficacy, except to say that, the Hepatitis B vaccine and other vaccines are well known to cause immune suppression, making recipients of the vaccine more susceptible to circulating infectious disease. Given you are so ardently in favour of the governments vaccine schedule I am assuming that Dana was administered the Hep B vax at birth, per the current schedule. To have any credibility you need to state publicly whether or not Dana received the Hep b vaccine, because if she did, it muddies the waters somewhat, in terms of causation of death. Was an autopsy conducted, was it rigorous, these are the questions that you and your husband need to answer publicly.”
Mrs Dorey also published a dreadful article in The Inside Edition, and this latest one. They all contain false information about Dana, and us, and we ask you to stop. We have seen much worse statements from the beginning of this year, with terrible statements made about us on your Facebook site that Mrs Dorey allowed to remain up there. Statements such as that I “speak with a forked tongue”, and from your own administrators that we are not “honouring [our] daughter’s death with the truth”, and are “milking her death”.
“The McCafferys claimed that I had provided incorrect information to the ABC, but the final outcome of the ABC’s investigation of this issue stated that the journalist had actually made a mistake when she was speaking – the error was not mine.” – MD
No. I have the recording. The journalist asked a question of our paediatrician citing statistics of vaccination and Pertussis. Our paediatrician asked the journalist where she got the data from, and she said the AVN.
The letter from the ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs says:
“We have investigated the statistics used by Ms Quigley (the presenter) in her question and determined that their presentation was in breach of the ABC’s editorial requirements for accuracy and context in factual content. The statistics compared a vaccination rate from 2001 for children aged 0 to 6, with a vaccination rate from 2008 for children born during a particular three month window who had been vaccinated by the age of two. The two statistics are drawn from different data sets and relate to different groups of children. Accordingly, comparing the two statistics was inappropriate. Furthermore, the first vaccination rate statistics was for the year 2001 but was presented as a vaccination rate for 1991…In this case, whilst each individual statistic was in and of itself accurate and drawn from a verifiable Government source, the comparative manner in which they were presented was misleading.”
This was not the journalist’s mistake. She read out statistics provided by the AVN.
“Ken and I were both aware that a Lennox Head child had died from whooping cough – it was in all the media – but this was the first time that either of us knew who that child was.” “Neither Ken nor I were aware that Dana was the child involved; her name was not published in the papers until one or two days after Ken’s visit and her funeral was even later then that.” – MD
Ken Dorey visited my mother-in-law Carmel on the early afternoon of 12 March 2009. Dana’s funeral was on 13 March 2009, also published in the funeral notices of the paper. As we have stated, Ken and Carmel do know each other through the environment group. While Ken claims to not have known about Dana, Meryl did. She was interviewed for the Daily Telegraph the day before (11 March) about the death, then Dana was on the front page of the Northern Star newspaper on that morning of 12 March 2009, and Meryl admits she saw this article and then rang Paul Corben from NCAHS that morning. This all occurred before Ken visited Carmel. Whatever reasons for Ken being there, he saw a grandmother in grief. He probably was shocked and provided his condolences. However, when most people send cards and food, what did Meryl do? Start to spread lies about our daughter. It beggars belief and continues distress us.
“At the end of the conversation, Ken remembers Carmel saying to him that the doctors told Toni and David that it was most likely that Dana had caught whooping cough from an unvaccinated child in the hospital.” – MD
This is so disgusting. A private conversation from a grieving grandmother and Mrs Dorey twists it and uses this in e-newsletters and The Fear Factor. What a betrayal of trust. Carmel would never have used those words. Dana could have caught it in the hospital, but a week later we found out that there were 6 positive notifications at my older daughter’s childcare centre, where I had taken Dana on one day, and numerous notifications at my son’s school. He started kindergarten. That’s right. On one day, I took Dana out because I need to drop my son to school and daughter to preschool and there was whooping cough everywhere– and I live with that every day. If I had known Whooping Cough was around, I would not have stepped foot inside these places with Dana. I am gutted. We also held a review with NSW Health – and there were no cases of whooping cough in the maternity ward of Lismore Base Hospital. We have never stated that Dana was infected by an unvaccinated child. That is a complete lie and Mrs Dorey should retract it.
Enough is enough. We just simply ask the AVN and Mrs Dorey to stop spreading false information about our daughter. She caught whooping cough. She died a torturous death. Leave her in peace and stop misleading the public.
Whooping cough is dangerous; and it is deadly for 1 in 200 babies.
Now after having to deal with these lies, I have to take my children to a birthday party and try to be normal.
Mrs Dorey and the AVN…please leave my family alone.
When I first encountered the anti-vaccination pressure group, the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network, over 8 years ago, as a part of Stop the Australian (Anti) Vaccination Network, one of the first things which became apparent was that the anti-vaccination activists would become self-fulfilling prophecies – due to their verbose, unearned hubris, along with their vilification of bereaved families, and their attacks on doctors and other public health workers, and their attacks on the media, and their attacks on politicians – who would succeed in bringing about that which they were, at that stage, strawmanning for business: fighting against (then-nonexistent) compulsory vaccination and the censure of their as-yet unchecked and lucrative, awful behaviour.
Now, these 8 years later, we can reflect on the successes of professional antivaxer, Meryl Dorey, and her cabal of dishonest antivax thugs. Dorey has quite a row of notches in her belt, to which antivaxers and natural health therapists can point and say, “thanks, Meryl.”
Dorey and her AVN brought about changes to the NSW Health Care Complaints Act, which was appropriately broadened so as to make complaints easier to lodge, due directly to Dorey and the AVN appealing a previously successful complaint and public health warning against the AVN, in the Supreme Court of NSW. The AVN were re-investigated. The AVN, and Dorey, then promptly gained themselves a brand-new HCCC Public Health Warning that still stands. Health complaints legislations around the nation have also been bolstered following the NSW amendments.
Dorey and her AVN have been instrumental in bringing about the various No Jab No Pay and No Jab No Play legislations around Australia, pertaining to childcare benefits and childcare access respectively. If it wasn’t for the boisterous arrogance of Dorey and Tasha David, Brett Smith and the rest of the AVN, then, maybe none of this would have come about. These types of policies are now being implemented around the world, in response to disease outbreaks and growth in anti-vaccination sentiment.
Meryl Dorey, Tasha David, and their anti-vaccination cult have just succeeded in setting another precedent. This precedent will have far-reaching consequences for all anti-vaccination activists who plan to come to Australia to damage our fiercely-protected public health and safety.
But, the tour may be the last, for all foreign antivaxers. And it will have serious consequences for the proposed Australian expansion of overseas antivax/autism organisations and their related activities. They have really done it this time.
Today, Tommey expanded. She and her antivax colleague bragged about their departure from Australia, the process of having evidence gathered from Tommey’s electronic device, and the claim that Australian immigration would have stopped her from entering Australia if they had been aware of her activities. This is big:
So, once again, thank you Meryl Dorey, Tasha David, and the AVN. Your service and dedication to public health will not be forgotten.
(e) the presence of its holder in Australia is or may be, or would or might be, a risk to:
(i) the health, safety or good order of the Australian community nor a segment of the Australian community.
Information because of which the grounds were considered to exist:
Open source information indicates that you are a prominent anti-vaccination activist in the United States of America. You recently visited Australia participating in delivering seminars at numerous locations about anti-vaccination and promoted an anti-vaccination film titled ‘Vaxxed’.
Picture a round-table populated by untreated, angry perianal abscesses, each with their own internet connection. That’s the Australian anti-vaccination movement: infected; weeping offensive, purulent exudate; ready to explode at the slightest of prodding; causing excruciating pain; adjacent to faeces and often indistinguishable from it; carving out distressing fistulas from where its festering message can newly seep.
We know where these attacks are being orchestrated; on August 6 and 7 2017, in the Bring Vaxxed to Australia/New Zealand group, antivaxers went on the attack. We also know for a fact that at least one official AVN/Vaxxed moderator – Jamie Elizabeth Crook – has seen this whole thread, having commented in it, twice. Only a couple of members objected, without qualification, to the vile attacks:
Katie Chinnock Way to build your celebrity!! These parents are shameless
Janis Cole What about the hundreds of kids who have died from these precious vaccines – No mention of those families suffering is there?
Another one sided ZERO investigative useless journalism
Ivana Veronika OMG the comments of all those brainwashed people! Good luck to them all
Moira Diripio Leisy Yeah..someone bragging about 3rd trimester shots…I’m guessing we will be seeing that exploiting post soon too
Raewyn McColley Someone even mentioned they posted flu shot selfies….who are these humans?
Mikka Lee Whitaker wow this family is something else wow. i have never seen this page. wow wow wow
Caraline George Wow… Rileys parents… just wow. I really feel for them. And the disgusting thing about the way Drs handle babies deaths that are unpreventable is to blame ‘something else’ rather than tell the parents their baby wasnt strong enough etc. Friends lost a baby under 1 after his vaccinations. Mum and Dad know it was the vaccinations he had. Drs say “he had underlying conditions anyway” because thats easier than saying….oh.. that batch must of been all riddled with stuff that didnt agree with your childs body. This whole story just makes me want to cry for the pain and suffering of the parents… the fact is babies cant be immunised, heard immunity is a fallacy and Drs need to be honest with parents. NO one wants anyone to lose a child but blaming everyone else who isnt even sick or doesnt have sick children is not theway forward together.
Adrian Drew Same with heart attack drugs they kill people too. But save many they say. Until it is someone you love and care about. 2% of population should not have heart attack drugs. They will bleed out. Cayeen pepper works same as the nasty drugs but the body will not be damaged in anyway. In fact it will heal it.
Katrina Baldwin Russell Leave the parents alone, unless you’ve lost a child you have no idea. It might not be your way and you don’t have to agree but let them deal how they can.
Katie Chinnock No!! They are using their celebrity to poison other children NOT OK!! I have lost 5 children it does not make me want to kill other children
Katrina Baldwin Russell And you don’t think it’s possible they’ve been used? It’s not ok to badger a grieving parent.
Raewyn McColley Yes- some of us know that pain…and certainly wouldn’t want it to happen to anyone else.
However, this is wrong- so wrong.
There are crazies who take things way too far on both ‘sides’ – yet only one lot is vilified and held accountable.
Raewyn McColley Poor parents- they not only have to cope with the death of a child but now are sacrificial lambs for the ’cause’.
Can’t they see how they’re being exploited and used by others- it’s disgusting and sad.
Caraline George I know talk about putting yourself out there in the pain zone. But I guess they think they are changing something.. I cant even imagine what it must be like for any parent. Ihope they find some peace soon.
Adrian Drew What will they say when one of their followers has a really bad reaction.
Raewyn McColley They’ll still blame others- like the silly woman in the paper whose kids were vaccinated, still got sick and it was the fault of non vaccinated people…
Dakota Fox Neither should the deaths of all the other thousands of kids who have lost their lives from a vaccine reaction! Im sorry your baby died, but you dont know what you are talking about regarding vaccines, and you are both being extremely reckless and irresponsible trying to force vaccination on our perfectly healthy children, if you are living in 2017 and still don’t believe that vaccines are full of toxic harmful ingredients and that they not only damage children but can kill them, then I’m sorry but you are not only highly ignorant, but you’re also dumb.. very very dumb. I’m not sure how you both sleep at night, yes you lost your baby, and may he rest in peace, but in turn so many more of our children have died and continue to die because of vaccines. You have blood on your hands and i hope the day you do finally realise the damage that youve done to our children with your pathetic views that it eats you up inside.
Sarah Rayma Saunders They lost there son. And responses like this put ppl on the back foot. It doesn’t make someone vaccinating there child second guess and go research. It makes other parents mad and angry for this family and pushes there agenda further.
Imagine the high road we can take by giving the same compassion to those families that loose children no matter the cause.
Kazia-Moana Guy We have to remember that these parents would feel very similar to us. We need to respect her path as a parent who lost a child to what they think is a “vaccine preventable illness” as much as we respect the parents of vaccine injured children and their path
Dakota Fox I very much do, but theyve gone too far and dont even understand the damage they are helping create
Kazia-Moana Guy It’s sickening I know. And they feel the same about us encouraging people not to vaccinate
Wai Burton ill informed parents… must be paid big money to promote this death …
Raewyn McColley Well damn…
Blocked for politely enquiring as to whether someone believes in freedom of speech after they squawked with indignation about a vaxxed promo leaflet on a PUBLIC noticeboard…..
Dear oh dear….they walk among us.
Teresa Ann Piatt I’m truly sorry what happened to this baby, I’ve tried to communicate with this family in a kind way, they won’t hear it… I believe she was vaccinated during pregnancy and that baby received his newborn shots… there’s no way he could fight off whooping cough with the amounts of toxins he had already received… I don’t believe they should be attack but there are far more babies dying from vaccines than there are from whooping cough…1991 my daughter spent a month in the hospital because she had whooping cough.. NO it wasn’t fun… it was scary!!! She was 6 weeks old.. too young for her shots!! She survived and she has a life long immunity ..We are made to fight off illnesses… this whole thing with Riley is blowing way out of control, let’s hear about the vaccine death toll… these parents remove any post about vaccine death or injury… they are not allowing the other side of the story and they are using their son’s death as away to get attention… it’s beyond the point of grieving, it’s ridiculous… I’d like to point out that my unvaxxed 4 year old grandson hasn’t been to the doctor since he was 2 months old… the only reason he went at 2 months was because my daughter was curious how much he weighed, he doesn’t get sick.. he gets colds but nothing serious for a doctor visit…
Lee Ann Ness-Yorke Why is this sounding more and more like propaganda? Are they real people?
Teresa Ann Piatt Yes they are real… I tried to leave them a kind message but anything posted suggesting anything other than what they believe is immediately deleted.
Teresa Ann Piatt Really sad thing is they have 100’s maybe 1000’s purchasing polio vaccines for African children as a way to strike against the VAXXED team…
Jamie Elizabeth Crook please make sure not to make the situation worse all…. if you have to write on that post, be considerate and kind.
Lynne Hopewell Its interesting they cocooned their child with the vaccine of the disease that killed their child you have to wonder whether he caught it of an asymptomatic carrier? Then they blame anti vaxers for it
Adrian Drew It seems that they may end up with some very bad backlash when one of their followers has a injured child. The plank is really short.
Sarah Rayma Saunders Sometime we win more ground and push further with compassion even for ppl who’s opinions we don’t agree with. They lost a child and no comment suggesting anything but sorrow will be taken with anything but hate. Hate from the community that push vaccinations. And anyone on the fence will look and get mad with the family. Some times silence says a lot more
We can’t change anyone’s minds or put doubt in a vaxers head by throwing negativity at a parent that lost a child.
Marie Klarich Riley’s death shouldn’t have happened. Neither should any of the hundreds of babies who die from vaccine adverse effects. But, hey, they obviously don’t matter because you’ll never hear about them in the mainstream news…
Anita Bugges Riley’s doctors should have used Dr Humphries’ vitamin C protocol, proven effective for thousands of babies and children.
Leisa Goldsworthy They blocked me ages ago.
How can they say the vaccine prevents whooping cough when it says on the insert that it hasn’t been shown to stop transmission. FFS!
Kay Vickery One simple initial step could help reduce so many sick ppl: dont go.out in public if you know you are sick: vomits, the runs, running nose, persistent cough.
Air cons in shopping centres.. medical centres etc are the best breeders, too.
Sacha Marie Watkins I just can’t keep reading these things. It’s heartbreaking that people believe this.
Chris Phillips He caught it from a vaccinated child but they don’t tell you that hey !!!
They are full of it !
Chris Phillips Went to take grandson 19 months to play group today : walked in and three of the kids there all had runny noses deathly pale ! We walked straight out ! Keep your vaccinated germ spreading mosnsters home people !!!’
Yarri Nungunkari If Riley wasn’t injected with Hepb and vit c his immunity would have been strong enough for him to survive
The so called parents do not behave like real grieving parents… not even close!
The narrative exposes their concocted lies!
But, the anti-vaccination activists were not done, having attacked the Hughes on the above post.
Today, August 7 2017, they piled on, again, in a new post:
Katie Chinnock Those poor babies!! Just reading thru those comments made me feel sad for humanity
Richard P Clark This is absolutely disgusting. Bad Karma… we don’t need to lift a finger, karma will sort it out. (I’ve seen karma take care a few times, and it’s much more retribution than I’d give..)
Kelly Weston I feel very sad about this situation. I don’t understand why people don’t read vaccine inserts then ask questions? Plenty of medical professionals have seen the damage, but to speak out means they loose their jobs. My dad is a pro vaxxer I showed him the list of vaccines a child has before they go to school. His face said it all… what the hell are all these for???
He was shocked, and was not ok with it. I went on to inform him of all the allergies and sick kids there are now, I think he got it. My mum is constantly reminded to get the flu vaccine at her work.
Kathleen McKay Yes, I think we MUST focus QUICKLY on education and not worry about provaxxers.
Kelly Weston Yes absolutely….the hate around this debate is getting way out of control!! I don’t hate parents that choose to vaccinate their children. I just cannot stand the IGNORANCE they show towards parents that choose not to vaccinte, and that so many children are chronically ill, but will not think about how they became allergic to stop it getting much worse, but only how to manage and carry on.I have thought for a while now that the hate generated toward non vaxxers will be the next “war” on humanity…I bloody hope it doesn’t come to this. Its definatly gaining momentum.
Sara Mae They delete all non vax posts and block people. Ignorant fools
Caraline George This is just the saddest thing Ive ever seen. Its like they are bragging they have the power to vaccinate 3rd world children… who are being forced to be vaccinated anyway. Their Mums dont have clean water or living conditions let alone a Macbook Air to do their research. Sending love to these parents for their loss and hope their journey becomes easier.
Raewyn McColley It just sounds ridiculous.
Worse are all the ‘rah rah take that baby killers’ self congratulating posts that follow….what species of human are these?
Kylie Metje Anti vaccine activists???? They really are so close minded. The only important babies are the ones who get whooping cough, not the ones who get sick from vaccines…
And I’m sick of hearing it’s completely preventable as if the vaccine is 100% effective, which we all know it’s not….
Karin Adams Sickening glee – the real level of previous threat to oublic health has been completely
Connie Wilson Disgusting they think other children should suffer because there baby died thats shocking.
Connie Wilson So let me guess little Riley has a sister who was most likely vaccinated with the whooping cough vaccine and then spread the virus to the baby and its the rest of the worlds fault? OK then! Stupid people!
Alison Lagertha Phoenix Can we screenshot and not share stuff from that page?? Enough pro vax share without us contributing to views and shares too
Janna D Kowalchuk That’s so fucked up. The comments are sick.
We don’t care about our children?? It’s opposite!!
Brainwashing at its finest…
Darynn Waho Indoctrinated people’s greatest fears are stepping outside of their comfort zones of what they perceive to be true and challenging themselves that the past has not always got it right. on the basis that government / bureaucrats and big business / elites are always right and have our best interests @ heart should be the red flag for the asleep to awaken and begin challenging-Questioning and researching issues close to them.
Michelles Well Im beginning to smell a rat.
Can’t help but wonder if this lot is another big pharma set up.
Diana Thaib So sad big pharma supporters use the innocent dead baby for vaccines promotion! No one is anti vaccines. Those are people who either suffer from vaccine injuries or have loved ones injured by vaccines and decide to say No to vaccines! Why can’t we respect others’ informed choices!
Diana Thaib Poor babies in those developing countries where they donate the vaccines! They only need better sanitation, healthy organic food, healthy home, some dose of sunshine, good sleep and lots of love and hugs!!
Diana Thaib Where is the light for those innocent babies and children who are injured or killed by vaccines?
Nikki Nick They don’t count. They are just written off as taking one for the herd.
Chris Phillips Hey the bright side of this is the families injected with them can now sue !! The responsibility of vaccine damage now rests with the family !!!
Freedom of information should tell us where they have been sent and notification of their sender to those receiving and how to claim against any injury !!
It’s time to make the ass holes accountable
Janna D Kowalchuk Well, I really doubt that people in third world countries are gonna have the means to access a lawyer to sue big pharma…
Chris PhillipsJanna D Kowalchuk they don’t need to !
If I send a item anywhere in the world under my name which is then used by someone : an injury occurs from its use : which we know vaccines do ) I can be sued !
I do not come under the protection umbrella !!
These are the very people who are dying in many many more instances from vaccines !
They are in need of the truth : and not after the fact !!
Janna D Kowalchuk Yea I get that 🙂 I didn’t say that they couldn’t sue. They would still need a lawyer and money and even be able to get somewhere where there is a lawyer in many cases.
Claire M Reyes I posted on that post. Probably shouldn’t have as it’s full of brainwashed peeps and there will probably be an onslaught. But I love in hope that even one person may read it and ponder. edit: ‘live’ not ‘love’
Lisa Welbourne It’s not as if these children wouldn’t be getting them anyway. Likely these parents have been conned into lining someones pockets, but hey, I am pro choice.
Sharon Bailey God- the irony- giving a potentially damaging gift to children to spite those who raise awareness of children damaged by the gift itself.. please wake up world!
Anyone know what this could be? Yesterday my 8yo had an itchy rash on her torso, so I thought it was just the post viral rash (she’s been unwell this week). But today it’s in a slightly different area and painful, not itchy. She was ok for a while after her shower but started crying when she went to bed because it hurts when it gets hot. With all the talk about meningococcal lately I’m worried, even though I don’t think it looks like it….any ideas please?
VFA group members swiftly chimed in with their reckons.
Learning that her daughter’s rash may be measles, Castro-Micos could not contain her excitement:
Joanne MulcahyIt looks a bit measles to me, – if she has had any of the following… Fever. general discomfort, illness or lack of wellbeing (malaise) runny nose. dry cough. sore and red eyes (conjunctivitis) red and bluish spots inside the mouth (Koplik’s spots). Keep her away from people for now and get a diagnosis from Dr. Make sure it’s on her records that she has had measles. She is over the worst of it. Sooth with calamine lotion will soothe. Lots of cool drinks water esp. Vitamin C 500mg 2x per day.
Joanna Castro-MicosReally??!!! Yes she’s had almost all those symptoms! I thought the spots would be bigger – i only had chicken pox as a kid so not sure what they’re supposed to look like. My kids haven’t had any of the childhood illnesses, soooo excited if it is!! 😃
Yet more members weighed in with their considered differential diagnoses:
Anti-vaccination activists are a danger to their own children. They are a danger to everyone’s children. Reject them.
These are the admins responsible for the health misinformation which is published in the VFA group:
Last night, the Miami State High School allowed its auditorium to be used to show the anti-vaccine film, including a Q&A session featuring the AVN’s Meryl Dorey – a person specifically named in that public health warning – and the stars of the film, one of them being Polly Tommey, who has previously stated to Vaxxed Q&A audiences that there is no safe vaccine and that parents should stay away from paediatricians:
This lack of due diligence by Miami State High School is unforgivable.
Other venues to put profit before the health of the community, by hosting the anti-vaccination caravan of carnage in the previous days are The Greek Club, in Brisbane, and the Maleny Community Centre, on the Sunshine Coast.
Please ensure your friends and families are aware of the actions of all of these venues before providing them with your patronage.
The Courier Mailreports that the Miami State High School was deceived by the anti-vaccination activists, which is a common tactic:
ORGANISERS of an anti-vaccination documentary screening have allegedly tricked a Gold Coast state school into showing the film after telling officials they were running a seminar on organic vegetables.
The Gold Coast Bulletin also reports the deception by the AVN and Vaxxed:
ANTI-vaxxers ‘tricked’ a Gold Coast school principal in order to spread their inaccurate documentary, says a fuming Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk.
Premier Palaszckuk today slammed the lobbyists for misrepresenting the true reason for the meeting.
“My initial advice is that there has been misrepresentation from that organisation to the school in question, where they conveyed to the principal that it was to be conveying information about organic produce.
A Gold Coast principal was hoodwinked into hiring out his school hall for a screening of a controversial anti-vaccination documentary, Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says.
“My preliminary advice is that there has been some misrepresentation to the school in question,” Ms Palaszczuk said.
“They conveyed to the principal that it was to be conveying information about organic produce.”
Miami State High School principal, Sue Dalton, has issued a statement regarding the breach of contract by the “local business” that hired the school auditorium:
To the Miami State High School Community
Miami SHS regularly allows the hire of its facilities to support our local community, businesses and families. Unfortunately there has been attention today surrounding a private booking in our school’s hall last night that showed a screening of a controversial documentary that was not disclosed to school administration at the time of the booking or any stage after.
The school hall was hired to an independent local business owner to promote their healthy lifestyle business of organic foods and coffee. It is incredibly disappointing that the agreed purpose of the use of hire did not reflect the forum that was presented last night.
I have since met with the business owner this morning to convey my concern and disappointment in the breach of the use of hire agreement and made it clear that Miami State High School does not endorse the anti-vaccination documentary or any organisation attached to this agenda.
One of the many harms the anti-vaccination movement inflicts upon the community is the harm done to parents who falsely blame themselves for the health conditions of their children. The most common of these blameless parents are the parents of autistic children. Antivax lies are reinforced, again and again, that these parents are somehow to blame for their child’s autism because they had their children immunised. It is a particularly despicable facet of the whole antivax movement.
On July 24 2017, Arslan posted a comment from a “devastated” anonymous parent:
We have a developmental paediatrician appointment coming up for my child soon after doing many assessments which have come back with them pointing the concerns towards neurological.
He did have a traumatic birth but has also been pumped with every vaccine that’s been recommended.
I’m actually devastated!
But after researching so much could it be possible that vaccines contributed to the way he is?
Is there any amazing books I should read?
I’m very new to this still. I do have a 3 year old who isn’t vaccinated & huge difference in kids.
I just know at the last appt are putting it all on birth but I’m not convinced it’s actually making me feel sick.
Antivaxers quickly started posting comments promoting dangerous therapies such as chelation, antivax crackpots, and other misinformation, reinforcing the baseless concerns of the anonymous parent:
One particular commenter started offering more specific, professional advice.
My name is Anne Thistleton (BEd; MREd; MCouns; Grad Dip. Nut Med (Mental Health); Cert EF & TTh; Cert SP & SW; CIME) aka The Baby Calmer.
As well as working with parents and their children in the home, I also provide an Individual, Family and Relationships Counselling Service – Anne Thistleton Counselling – which specialises in Emotional Release Counselling, Sandplay Therapy and Symbolwork for children (aged 18mths – 17 years) and adults.
I hold a Bachelor of Education (with a specialisation in Early Childhood Education), a Master of Education, and a Master of Counselling, along with a Graduate Diploma of Nutritional Medicine – Mental Health. I have also completed formally recognised post-graduate study and training in the areas of Emotion Focused and Transpersonal Therapy, and Sandplay Therapy & Symbolwork.
I am a qualified Mediator, Certified Infant Massage Educator and registered ‘Circle of Security’ Parenting Educator.
In Anti-Vaccination Australia, Thistleton offered the following advice to the anonymous member, that member later revealing herself as Kirsten Stewart:
Anne Michelle: I’m a clinical birth trauma therapist, and also a masters qualified counsellor, nutritionist – mental health, Somatic Experiencing practitioner, craniosacral practitioner and sandplay therapist. I have eight plus years experience working with and treating birth trauma. And almost a decade of specialised post grad training in this field. I’d be open to talking with you, and helping you decipher what would be typical presentations of birth trauma and what would not be. Feel free to PM me.
Kirsten Stewart: Anne, wow! Have questions about my 19yr old’s birth – my first born – was born “breathing up” after a posterior labour and I thought it was coz I squeezed his head coming out.. He was breathing too fast for his first 25 hrs.. He was whisked off after midnight (born 7.30pm) to be watched in a humidy crib.. They told me if his breathing didn’t slow down in 24 hrs he could have “problems”.. But they also gave him vitamin k..that I wasn’t happy about.. Not sure if it was the first few hours or first few days that this happened.. Have lost my records and my memory is hazy. Not knowing anything I then sadly gave him all the next shots at 2, 4, 6,12 and 18 months.. and 4yrs.. But he had showed signs of autism very early on, that the paediatrician didn’t take seriously. There are arguments now over whether his autism is hereditary or vaccine induced. My father is suspected asbergers and he was vaccinated even back then. He’s 86yrs old now! My mum was also vaxxed ((born 1940) and all my sisters and I were vaxxed (born late 60’s/early 70’s), and so if it’s hereditary, how do I know if its the VAX damage being passed on down the line from my parents or some ‘natural’ defects that came through from my dad’s side?
Anne Michelle: Kirsten StewartI’m not qualified in professional areas to answer you question specifically. That would probably be something you’d probably be able to find out through genetic / DNA testing or something like that. But in relation to birth trauma, other types of trauma or significant stress during the pre and perinatal period – these can contribute to symptoms that show up in individuals, that indicate that the nervous system has been overwhelmed, and has not had an opportunity to discharge the way it needed to from an external threat. And so, what happens is, this charge is held within the body, and at a nervous system level, which is demonstrated through that the way in which that individual interacts with the world, and we see particular symptoms of trauma. If you google Peter Levine and symptoms of trauma, you will get an exhaustive list. In treatment / therapy, we gently discharge the high levels of nervous system arousal associated with trauma, and help client’s bodies return to a more manageable level of functioning. As we begin to reset client’s nervous systems, integration organically occurs. It is possible that intergenerational trauma is presenting within your family, or that your individual experiences of trauma have impacted on your individual nervous system functioning. Adding vaccinations to an already compromised / traumatised system, and adding further trauma in terms of the insult to the nervous system via vaccination, could all be contributing factors, along with the physiological issues relating to chronic gut health issues and nutritional deficiencies – which occur during times of extreme stress or after vaccinations and other mediations. Most of the time, it’s quite complex retracing the possibilities. Where there is nervous system dyreguation, sometimes, clients or parents report noticing small differences almost immediately. And in working with trauma, the work is slow, and over time.
Kirsten Stewart: Thank-you Anne, and I notice you have pm’d me so I will continue our chat there! X
As an aside, the AVA thread finished with this recommendation:
“Dr Moulder” is actually Dr Andrew Moulden, a man who was so consumed by his own florid insanity that he took his own life to escape it. From his own sister, in 2013:
If you are concerned about the demonstrably flawed professional advice from Anne Thistleton, to a vulnerable person, done whilst citing her qualifications and her business, and continued with the potential client via private messaging, please lodge a complaint with the Queensland Office of the Health Ombudsman.
Thistleton’s The Baby Calmer Facebook page makes this post even more dire. The following screenshots show hideous anti-vaccination posts, anti-fluoride, anti-psychiatry, Scientology, Burzynski and other cancer cure lies.
CCHR is the cult, Scientology, which has a rabid hatred of psychiatry:
The hideous anti-vaccination lie that parents who have murdered their babies are falsely blamed for the vicious assaults; instead, the deaths are caused by the vaccinations received by the babies:
Homeopathy used as childhood infectious disease treatment and as a vaccination:
Mercola attacking psychiatric medications:
Anti-vaccination post from rabid antivax site, Health Impact News:
Promotion of US cancer cure charlatan, Burzynski:
Promotion of US cancer cure charlatan, Burzynski, followed by AIDS denialism in the comments:
Adrenal fatigue is not a real thing:
Accusations that doctors and midwives are committing “birth rape”:
Mercola attacking psychiatry:
Cancer cure charlatanry:
Anti-vaccination homeopath Isaac Golden and his fake immunisation, followed by the hideous anti-vaccination lie that vaccines cause SIDS:
Post by actual baby-killer, Janet Fraser:
Crackpot anti-vaccination activist, Peter Dingle:
Anti-vaccination website Talk About Curing Autism, and apologist, Bob Sears:
Crackpot anti-vaccination activist, Peter Dingle:
Mercola and the autism epidemic, implicating vaccines as a cause:
Autism cure charlatanry:
Update August 6 2017
In Anti-Vaccination Australia, Thistleton admits to filing false and vexatious reports with Facebook and the Australian Federal Police:
The promoters are also heavily marketing the film’s merchandise. It is clear that this is about cold, hard cash and, just today, the public were informed that four overseas representatives/stars of the movie have quietly slipped into Australia. This is, no doubt, a commercial enterprise:
On July 19 2017, the AVN posted that vaccines are linked to depression:
Last night, July 22 2017, on its main Brisbane news broadcast, ABC News interviewed Meryl Dorey:
Now, thankfully the AVN was repeatedly called “anti-vaccination,” and Dorey’s comments were certainly surrounded by a complete shellacking of the debunked arguments underpinning Vaxxed, that vaccines cause autism; but, Dorey’s comments, in isolation, were not rebutted. And this is not the first time the ABC has erred in interviewing Dorey, to its own detriment.
Meryl Dorey has had numerous complaints upheld against her – well, against the poor producers and hosts who interviewed her – by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs. In fact, so disreputable is Dorey that the ABC was forced to send out a memo warning its producers and hosts against interviewing her, due to Dorey’s inability to tell the truth.
Why would anyone interview her at all? Does Australian media have such a short attention span?
Dorey featured in last night’s ABC News segment, twice.
First, Dorey was allowed to argue that her organisation is not anti-vaccine, because they don’t tell anyone not to vaccinate:
We do not tell people not to vaccinate. We don’t tell them to vaccinate. We simply say that vaccines are a medical procedure. And all medical procedures have risks.
Whilst we will be hard-pressed to find anywhere where Dorey and her group have stated “do not vaccinate”, apart from their own words and merchandise, this old sleight-of-hand from Dorey is shown for the lie that it is by her own members, fans, and followers.
This document sets out in detail how Meryl Dorey and the Australian Vaccination Network have affected the health decisions of AVN members and supporters. The document contains concrete examples of individual cases, taken from the years 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012.
The examples are taken from many official AVN and related fora.
The document is full of comments like this:
It is thanks to [Meryl Dorey and the AVN] that we…decided not to vaccinate our daughter
And Dorey basked in the supportive comments from her followers. Her misinformation frequently got the results she was seeking: parents refused to immunise themselves and their children.
Second, Dorey was allowed to claim that previous screenings of the film were cancelled due to “threats” against the theatre. Dorey’s comments were wrapped by the reporter’s:
Jessica Lodge (reporter): Organisers are so concerned about the public backlash, they won’t reveal the locations of the screenings until shortly before it goes ahead.
Dorey: We had two screenings that were cancelled because of threats against the theatres where the screening were being held.
Jessica Lodge: And the group is expecting there’ll be even more to come.
The reason that Dorey and her pressure group refuse to state the names of the venues is so that venues don’t see the public revulsion at their decision to host demonstrable public health threats in their premises. No one likes to be linked to an organisation whose endeavours will see more dead babies, if successful. It is, as the AVN knows, bad PR.
So, here we are again. Dorey lies to the media. The media swallows her lies – and the ABC isn’t the only one, of late – and the AVN gets a free kick in the media for its latest money-making venture. And there’s nary a mention of any public health warnings, or Dorey’s and the AVN’s previous form.
Update July 23 2017
Right on cue, the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network proves to us just how despicable they are, sharing a meme from No Vaccines Australia which compares the death of Riley Hughes to unsubstantiated, imagined deaths from vaccines:
This is what it looks like when the government of a free nation tries to enslave its citizens and they refuse to be put in chains.
When will Australia wake up to the fact that our government has sold us to corporate interests and will use us and our children for their own profit? When will we march in the streets in our tens of thousands as they do in Italy, Germany, France, Poland, Sweden and across Europe to oppose illegal, immoral and unethical vaccine mandates and fines? Time to get off our arses and speak our names.
My name is Meryl Dorey and I am a free woman who will fight to the death to protect my children and the children and free adults of this previously democratic nation of Australia. Will you join me?
State your name. Turnbull et alia – learn our names and remember them. We WILL prevail. Your evil plans WILL fail. Never doubt it.
Today we will be including a new collection of evidence showing that Sandy Hook hoaxers are still sending threats and other astonishingly offensive, abusive messages directly to the bereaved families of the Sandy Hook mass murder. The collection will be included at the end of this post.
The Sandy Hook Tragedy Didn’t End at Sandy Hook – You Can Help End It Now
We bring awareness to the cruelty and criminality of Hoaxer activity that perpetuates tragedies such as Sandy Hook and, if necessary, criminally and civilly prosecute those who wittingly and publicly defame, harass, and emotionally abuse the victims of high-profile tragedies and their family members. We intend to hold such abusers personally accountable for their actions, in whatever capacity the law allows.
In the aftermath of horrific tragedies such as the mass shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the Orlando Pulse nightclub, Santa Barbara, the Aurora Theater, and even the Boston Marathon bombing, an offensive element of society, known as ‘truthers’ have seized the opportunity to advance their conspiracy theorist mindset upon the masses, by posting a litany of various forms of speculation and disinformation on YouTube and social media sites. We refer to these individuals as ‘hoaxers’ because the core of their belief is that these violent tragedies were simply Hoaxes, perpetrated by the government to more easily limit civil liberties, especially those involving the second amendment.
So, how can we help? You can take action alongside the HONR Network; or, you can simply report and flag hoaxer and related vileness whenever you come across it. You can turn this into a habit: if you see it, report it; it doesn’t take long. From what I have witnessed, first-hand, this can be a successful method of having this offensive material quickly removed from YouTube and other social media platforms.
Most of us are repulsed by the activities of conspiracy theorists who attack bereaved families. There is no point in all of us expressing our rage every time another nadir is reached by conspiracy theorists. We can do something about it. We need to do something about it.
How are these families, so incomprehensibly and violently transgressed, ever allowed to grieve? How can they go on? How do they go on, being threatened and vilified on top of the horrific emotional wounds which would destroy many of us; one evil compounded upon another? Why do we allow the people in these short videos to suffer, even more than before, at the hands of conspiracy theorists?
“F*** you!! Your child never died at Sandy Hook,” is one among thousands of online posts that Lenny and Veronique Pozner have had to deal with as they mourn their six-year-old son Noah.
“Where’s Noah going to die next?” is another.
On March 31 2017, Hannah D’Avino – whose sister, Rachel, a behavioural therapist, was murdered at Sandy Hook – told Mike Wendling of the BBC about the regular death threats she and her family still receive from hoaxers:
There has been so many psyops/hoaxes that it’s hard to keep up with them now. SHAME ON THEM. MORE AND MORE OF US ARE WAKING UP! THEY ARE RUNNING SCARED NOW BECAUSE WE SEE THEM BUT THEY WILL NOT STOP UNTIL WE STAND TOGETHER AND PUT A STOP TO THESE CRIMINALS OURSELVES. IF I SEE YOU AGAIN IN MY CITY, YOU BETTER BE LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER!
There is a very special place in hell for all the participants in the Sandy Hook Hoax. You are not even human beings…You are freakin monsters. The most pathetic miscreants on the planet earth. The slime at the bottom of the swamp called the US Government. And I hope what little is left of your own concience and human emotions like SHAME,GUILT & REMORSE over what you have participated in haunts you day & night for the rest of your miserable sell-out lives.
You fake, criminal Sandy Hook parents are disgusting. How dare you insult the countless parents that have truly lost their children. No, I will NOT be donating and no, I will not be giving up my gun……I spit on all of you propagandists.
On June 14 and June 15 2017, Wolfgang Halbig sent the following emails to Lenny Pozner:
Subject: CLEAR NO WIRES HELICOPTER VIEW[aerial image attached]
CAN YOU AS A PARENT WHO WAS AT THE SANDY HOOK VOLUNTEER FIRE HOUSE EXPLAIN THIS PICTURE TO ME IN DETAIL SINCE YOU CALL ME A PERSON WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.
WHERE ARE ALL THE PARENTS AT THE FIRE HOUSE?
WHERE DID THEY ALL GO FOR PIZZA AND COFFEE?
WHY ARE THE SWAT TEAM MEMBERS AT THE FIRE HOUSE SHOULD THEY NOT BE HELPING TO FIND THE SHOOTER?
WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE LAPTOPS IN THEIR GROUPS?
WHO BRINGS A LAP TOP TO A MASS CASUALTY SCHOOL SHOOTING?
JUST SIMPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU SINCE YOU KNOW IT ALL
Subject: I have NO reason as of today to doubt that 20 children and 6 educators did not die at Sandy Hook. As of today they are all dead until proven otherwise.
Alex Jones has a child right?
Would he if living in Newtown Ct before the shooting had even taken place send his 1 first grade child into that filthy and deplorable looking school that was used as a Toxic waste Dump every single school day?
Filthy and deplorable looking Elementary School
Think…put your parent hat on for just a few minutes and tell me that you would expose your child K-4 grade to high levels of Asbestos every single school day that is friable?
Tell me that you would send your k-4 grade child into that elementary with the highest levels of lead paint every single school day?
Tell me that you would send your K-4 grade into a elementary school in which the groundwater under the school is fully loaded with PCB’S as well as inside the school?
Every parent who lost a child at Sandy Hook and every loved one who lost a husband or wife or finance on that tragic day should be ashamed by standing by and exposing their loved ones to serious life long health risks.
Who would do that to their precious child or loved one?
Why would anyone have worked at Sandy Hook Elementary School knowing that it was a filthy and deplorable looking school loaded with Toxic Waste?
These parents, the Newtown School Superintendent, the Newtown CT School Board members but most of all it was the parents who failed their children by sending them to this Toxic Elementary School every day.
These people lived in $500,000 thousand dollar homes and yet they failed their own child in exposing them to life long serious health problems. Why?
20 children and 6 educators died at Sandy Hook as far as I know it.
But, they should have never died in such filth and exposed to Toxic Waste every single school day.
I always thought that the parents highest priority was the safety of their child?
You can blame people for questioning Sandy Hook School Shooting Massacre, but you need to questions your parental responsibility first.
Why would you do that to your own innocent and precious child who depends on the parents to keep them safe.
Was that done in Pakistan or Newtown Connecticut…? LOL sorry Noah!!!
gmedack no no one was murdered sorry… now maybe they are truly dead but not in the FAKE SANDYHOOK LIE!!! Sorry do your research there is zero evidence zero evidence in this case… And I don’t take “well it was ON the news”!!! So give me evidence that is court worthy and then I will redact my comment!
No I will not go away these people have stolen millions and millions of dollars from innocent good hearted people that have been lied to by these liars… The POZNERS should stop posting these bullshit videos for sympathy..oh yeah I’m the stupid one yeah right you guys are buying into these bullshit lies because what they’re on TV?? I’m sure all of you think that 9/11 happened by Osama bin Laden .. The same man that has visited the White House! Stop watching mainstream media and start doing some research of your own!!!! There are plenty of other people just like myself that will not go away or be Silenced by LIARS LIKE LENNY OR THE WHEELERS!!! Thanks and have a good day and do yourself a favor watch the video
Geri Medack Who is following me?? I don’t have a YouTube channel that I make videos on..I am simply someone. Who does not follow mainstream media and I do independent research on such things as Sandyhook 9/11 the Manchester bombing the Boston bombing The Oklahoma bombing Or any other bombing or shooting that The aftermath is to take my civil liberties away such as THE Patriot Act OR MY GUN RIGHTS ( The 2nd Amendment)!!! SO For people like you that just want to rollover and have your government LIE to you and then one by one take your CIVIL LIBERTIES Away.. then that’s on you but I’m not that stupid nor a SHEEP SO BAHH BAHHH you FOOLS!!
Geri Medack why don’t you fucking listen to what these phony fake fucking parents LIKE THE POZNERS & WHEELERS & All the Rest of the crisis Actors are trying to do JACKASS!!! They’re trying to take away the guns in Florida after the fucking FAKE PULSE shooting … It’s an agenda!! It’s The Hegelian Dialectic. PROBLEM REACTION SOLUTION .. You’re just a moron…YOU simpleton just keep living in your fairytale .. that your government is honest and they’re looking out for the best interest of all of US!!! GOOD SHEEP
On June 9 2017, this YouTube comment was left on one of Lenny Pozner’s videos:
On June 6 2017, Frederick Muhlbauer sent this email to Lenny Pozner:
On May 20 2017, Lenny Pozner received this email:
May I call you Lenny, even though your mother probably called you Leonard….Such a nice Jewish boy .Oh Vey!
They say you are just part of the”shadow powers of lies.
So I am curious to know how did your supposed son have his picture with the supposed dead in the supposed slaying of children in Pakistan?
So with all this stuff back and forth with the truthers and the halbig guy and the guests on Caravan To Midnight,Alex Jones,Jeff Rense.Jim Fetzer, Etc, Etc.
How come someone like yourself has not presented proof of the SH slaying so we can call it a day. Why the vagueness?
Are you really only a fictitious person….I am hearing rumors….and I say rumors, that indeed pediphilia is involved with the SH cover-up.
YIKES STRIPES…can you feel their spikes….What a horrible thing to say.
I will tell you I dont know a thing but the SH deal with Pres Obummer doesn’t prove a God Damned thing. I trust him like I trust a infected whore.
Another peculiar person, although I can not condemn him since I have not concrete evidence suspicious presence, is in fact that this John Woodall. He seems to pop up whenever there is a disaster. And to think his hometown
is in Newton CT. hmmm he shows up after 911, and Boston Bombing as well. What really blows my mind is that he is a good member within The Baha’i Community.
Now my dear Lenny…..How could it be possible that a member of the Baha’i Faith in good standing be involved in help perpetrating such a gigantic lie and play along with such deception?
It boggles all logic to us Sherlock Holmes types. Well this may be a case for BOND, JAMES BOND…oh wait a minute…He is MI6 which is cousins with the CIA.
I want to bring in the Rothschild Banking family but they get way too much play from the Truthers.
So Lenny end the curiosity of many by proving SH was not a false flag.
I hope you are not an Atheist.
GOD KNOWS ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And we will continue to seek for the truth on these matters so it be revealed to humanity PRONTO! Say hello to the Boys 4 me….hahahaha
Amario Cascio who fights the illuminati with one hand tied behind his back!!!
Challenged by another HONR member, Colantuoni offered this in response:
On March 23 2017, Sam Gallant posted this comment underneath one of Lenny Pozner’s memorial videos for Noah, on Google Plus:
On February 16 2017, this email was sent to Lenny Pozner:
On December 14 2016, Matthew Dean posted this Facebook comment to Lenny Pozner:
On December 10 2016, Anthony Hunsberger sent the following Facebook direct messages to Lenny Pozner:
On December 4 2016, one of Lenny Pozner’s Google Plus videos was shared, along with this abuse:
On December 4 2016, this comment was posted to the HONR Network’s Google Plus page, by Julio Amparo:
On December 1 2016, Julio Amparo left this abusive comment on a video he shared from the HONR Network, on Google Plus:
On November 14 2016, Gene Rosen sent this abusive email to Lenny Pozner:
On November 14 2016, this abusive text message was sent to Lenny Pozner’s phone:
On October 14 2016, Felix Pantaleon sent a false and defamatory email to an apartment complex, hoping to gain personal and residential information on Lenny Pozner. The apartment complex promptly sent the email on to Lenny:
On September 17 2016, Trevor Colyn sent this Facebook direct message to Lenny Pozner: