Australian chiropractor’s baby book creates antivaxers – in their own words

Registered Australian chiropractor Jennifer Barham-Floreani (JBF) is a regular feature of this blog for her unabashed anti-vaccinationism. She regularly presents at overseas anti-vaccination chiropractic events alongside such gods of anti-vaccinationism as Andrew Wakefield, Barbara Loe Fisher and Billy DeMoss (I’ll include a list of blog posts at the end of this post). JBF featured in my most recent chiropractic blog post, only three weeks ago:

When the CBA made its August 2013 declaration against anti-vaccination misinformation, Jennifer Barham-Floreani brazenly stated in public –  the very next day – that she would not be complying with the CBA’s demands. And she’s still registered, for some reason:

But high-profile chiropractors say they will continue providing information about both sides of the vaccination argument.

Chiropractor and author Jennifer Barham-Floreani says it will not stop her colleagues from giving patients advice.

“Chiropractors will certainly be working towards making sure that the information that they convey to parents is the latest, up-to-date information that presents both sides of the vaccination debate,” she said.

JBF and her husband, registered chiropractor Simon Floreani, are/were professional members of the thoroughly disgraced antivax organisation, the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network. Only last year Simon Floreani was cautioned by the Chiropractic Board of Australia for having anti-vaccination paraphernalia on show at the Floreani business, Vitality. It is in that blog post I included a very brief rundown of the anti-vaccine chapter in JBF’s baby book, Well Adjusted Babies:

Also seen on Catalyst, in the Floreani business, was Jennifer Barham-Floreani’s book Well Adjusted Babies, which contains a 40-page anti-vaccine chapter so rife with misinformation it would almost make Meryl Dorey blush (almost). Notable citations in the chapter are ex-Dr Rebecca Carley, Not-a-doctor Viera Scheibner, the NVIC, Jim Carrey, “British vaccine expert Andrew Wakefield” (I’m serious), and homeopath Isaac Golden. Golden is cited, of course, as an authority on the effectiveness of homeoprophylaxis. We now know Golden’s reputation was officially trashed in the recent Federal Court case in which the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission succeeded against Homeopathy Plus!, the court finding that Homeopathy Plus! “engaged in misleading conduct and made false or misleading representations regarding the effectiveness of the whooping cough vaccine and homeopathic remedies as an alternative”. I would argue strongly that Barham-Floreani is doing precisely the same thing.

To quote the Barham-Floreani gibberish which no longer even borders on reckless endangerment; it is a stark example of it, fit for inclusion in any dictionary:

Homeopathic vaccinations are an effective and safe alternative to conventional innoculations and warrant your investigation. [p380]

One can only hope the Chiropractic Board of Australia has read the Barham-Floreani chapter on immunisation. I’ll even send them a copy. I am imagining they will need it.

JBF’s anti-vaccine book even got a run in Mamamia, where it was disclosed that Miranda Kerr’s people – Kerr being a friend of the Floreanis – ordered the removal of a testimonial she gave which appeared on the book’s cover, as well as the removal of her quotes from all promotional material, like this:

JBF 55 Well Adj page Miranda Kerr June 23

The Floreanis are still the stars of the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia, as you can see from the recent CAA Annual General Meeting. They are The Teflon Two of Australian anti-vaccinationist chiropractic.  The CBA appears unable to touch them. Or unwilling. Or inept.

This brief history of the Floreanis was brought about by a  post which was made in the secret anti-vaccination Facebook group, Vaccine Free Australia (VFA). The group is hardly secret. It has appeared in multiple media articles over the last two weeks, and it has a membership of over 4000 people.

On December 16 2015, only four days ago, a Perth anti-vaccination activist started a thread singing the praises of JBF’s book, and attacking Mamamia for their June 2015 article:

Lara Warwick  Dear Mammamia, thank you for giving publicity to the book ‘Well Adjusted Babies’. Had you not said anything I wouldn’t have noticed it in a book store recently. Even though your publicity was negative, I assure you this book will be shared, and used positively. Because of you, I was able to read this book with a smile on my face knowing you had led me to it. 
Thanks! 😘 (maybe I should actually send this to them).

JBF 69 VFA OP

JBF is herself a member of the rabidly anti-vaccine Facebook group:

JBF 67 VFA member

The members of VFA quickly responded with their glowing testimonials of the book, its anti-vaccine chapter, and their local chiropractors who recommended the book and its anti-vaccine message.

Tammy Bennett, from just north-west of Hobart, noted the “discreet” anti-vaccination message of the book:

Tammy Bennett Saw this in my Chiro’s office… very good read! Apparently the Chiro’s got ‘in trouble’ by their association recently for having anti-vax literature in their office waiting rooms and have been aadvised to remove it… but this book is discreet, love it!

Julia Page, from Queensland’s Gold Coast, also noted her chiropractor’s influence:

Julia Page  Mine has it, too :)

Viki Punos, from Perth, noted that her chiropractor discussed his anti-vaccination beliefs with her, including that vaccines were the “cause” of some condition in her child:

Viki Punos  I took my daughter to the chiro recently, first thing he asked was “is she vaccinated?” I answered yes (this is my oldest vaxed to 4yrs) he replied “that could be the cause”…then went on to explain that he was anti vax

Viki Punos  We got talking as his wife and I were pregnant at the same time. It’s not often you bump into people with similar views.
But, having said that, even the form I had to fill out asked the question if she was vaccinated and up to which point…

Antivaxer Louise Iris Laval gave the anti-vaccine chapter a glowing review:

Louise Iris  I don’t follow everything the author wrote about but found the vaccine section excellent

Kelly Santic, of Darwin, confirmed that her chiropractor also recommended an anti-vaccine book written by US antivax chiropractor Tim O’Shea, called The Sanctity of Human Blood: Vaccination is Not Immunization:

Kelly Santic  Chiro also told me to have a look at book called Ticklish and The sanctity of human blood..

Brisbane anti-vaccine activist, Jay Dee, concurred:

Jay Dee  Love the sanctity of human blood

Warwick – in reply to Sydney’s Aimee Buhagiar – stated what the CBA appears to be unable to find out for itself; JBF’s book “makes a strong case against” immunisation:

Aimee Buhagiar  Does she sat to vaccinate or ?

Lara Warwick  Pretty much doesn’t condemn either side, encourages your own research, and makes a strong case against it.

Jax Treea, of Rockingham Western Australia, confirmed that JBF’s book helped her “solidify” her anti-vaccine beliefs:

Jax Treea  Great book helped to solidify my decisions

Ross Cole, of New South Wales, believes that JBF’s book is “written by a doctor”, which it is not:

Ross Cole  And written by a doctor unlike mamamia’s posts

Heather Ellson, of Brisbane, noted the influence the book had on her whilst pregnant:

Heather Ellson  Loved that book when pregnant :)

Di Artio Lasala, of Melbourne, first saw the book at her chiropractor’s business:

Di Artio Lasala  Love that book! Saw it in my chiro’s waiting room and I then bought it.

Warwick, of Perth, repeated the positive claim, made above; that the vaccine chapter of the book is “excellent”:

Lara Warwick  I don’t agree with everything in the book, but her chapter on vaccines is excellent.

Hollie Boyd, of the Gold Coast Queensland, also gave the book’s anti-vaccine chapter the thumbs-up:

Hollie Boyd  I totally agree!
My mum bought this for me when I had my daughter almost 3 years ago

Kristie McDonald, of Melbourne, claimed that her chiropractor gave her a copy of the book when she was pregnant:

Kristie McDonald  My chiro gave it to me as a gift when pregnant… Loved it…

Rachel Baker, of Ringwood Victoria, also claimed that her chiropractor gave her a copy of the anti-vaccine book, when she was pregnant:

Rachel Baker  Same!

Natasha Daubney, also of Perth, claimed that she was also provided a copy of the antivax book by her chiropractor; when she, too, was pregnant:

Natasha Daubney  I was gifted this book by my chiro in my last pregnancy. I must pull it out and read it some more!

Nickie Fawkes, of Brisbane, just wanted to tell the world what she thinks of Mia Freedman:

Nickie Fawkes  Mia shitman troll

Bec Cameron, of Perth, purchased the anti-vaccine book due to the recommendations from the anti-vaccine VFA Facebook group:

Bec Cameron I just got this book two days ago :)  curtesy of this groups suggestions xx

Amanda Barton, of Queensland’s Hervey Bay, noted how the anti-vaccine “bible” impressed upon her decision-making process:

Amanda Barton  BEST BOOK EVER! It’s my bible and it helped me make a lot of amazing decisions x

Jasmin Vesnaver, of Bunbury Western Australia, attacked Mia Freedman, whilst noting that Ms Freedman is not a doctor; surprisingly just like Ms Barham-Floreani is not a doctor:

Jasmin Vesnaver  I’ve read some of this book and it’s great! Hahaaaaa suck shit mammamia!!!!!

Jasmin Vesnaver  Seriously, it’s come to that point where if mammamia suggests it, I avoid it! If she ridicules something, I’m probably gonna love it!!!!

Jasmin Vesnaver  Can we just add that the author is probably more qualified than Mia Freedman? Is Mia freedman a doctor now?

Rabid anti-vaccination activist Prue Neiberding, of Trafalgar Victoria, calls JBF’s book her “Baby Bible”:

Prue Neiberding  I’m pretty sure this is the one Orlando Bloom’s ex was ridiculed for praising. I call it my Baby Bible

Natalie-anne Brewer, of Queensland’s Bray Park, stated that her chiropractor recommended the anti-vaccine book, at the time of the birth of her child:

Natalie-anne Brewer  I was recommended this book by our chiro when my baby was born but haven’t been able to afford it. I check in op shops every time I go but doubt anyone will be giving away such a gem of a book.

Abbie Fetter, of Bridgetown Western Australia, likens the JBF book to another book called How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor, which was written by anti-vaccine US doctor, Robert Mendelsohn:

Abbie Fetter  Great book. A must have for all mums. Also “How to raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor”

Clinton McCauley is a chiropractor based in Mt Barker South Australia. McCauley was also a board member of the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia South Australia from 2011-2013. He tags Barham-Floreani in the VFA group, drawing her attention to the “awesome testimonials”:

Clinton McCauley Jen Barham Floreani awesome testimonials here!

JBF 68 VFA McCauley testimonials

Some readers may remember the callous anti-vaccine chiropractor, McCauley, from a previous post in which it was shown that he cruelly shares anti-vaccine memes which include the photo of a deceased baby boy.  The photo of that baby boy is being used without the permission of that baby boy’s bereaved parents:

McCauley 1 Riley juxtaposed with another dead baby

Finally, the VFA thread concludes with Stephanie Cowper, of Cairns Queensland. Cowper credits Jennifer Barham-Floreani’s book with starting her on her anti-vaccination journey:

Stephanie Cowper  This is the first book I read which got me questioning vaccines. A fantastic read which I have passed onto friends.

Rachel Baker, of Ringwood Victoria, states – in reply to Cowper – that the book had the same initial impact on her decision to follow the anti-vaccination path:

Rachel Baker  Same!

I have left out many comments which were solely testimonials for the book.

This keeps happening. I have nothing to add. So, I’ll just repeat what I said at the beginning of 2015:

Why is it left to members of the public to do anything about these outliers to reason and evidence? We’ll certainly know what internal action is being taken when it is consistently made available for the public, to whom the CBA owes the greatest duty of [public health and] safety.

In general, if the public doesn’t know which chiropractors are practising non-evidence based malarkey and worse, such as anti-vaccinationism, then, how can the public make an informed decision about their choice of chiropractor?

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Update December 30 2015

On December 8 2015 anti-vaccine crackpot Billy DeMoss uploaded a Simon Floreani interview to his YouTube channel. Floreani gives a glowing plug for DeMoss’ anti-vaccine event, CalJam. CalJam features a cornucopia of anti-vaccinationists and conspiracy theorists, including Andrew Wakefield, Sherri Tenpenny, Tim O’Shea, Alex Jones, Dane Wigington (chemtrails guy), amongst the line-up of public health menaces.

At 10:00 in the Floreani interview, Floreani plugs their book, Well  Adjusted Babies, and makes some surprising claims about its vaccine chapter. I’ve kept a copy in case the video  gets deleted:

Floreani: We’ve written a leading edge, best selling book with vaccine topics in it that has been vetted by the Government and put forward as one of the only books that chiropractors can actually use to talk about the “v” word.  But, at the same time that’s  one of the only books in the world that is rivaling what to expect when you’re expecting and getting into the ears of the parents…coming from Oz where…

DeMoss let’s have the title of the book

Floreani Well Adjusted Babies…

DeMoss Right, right, right…

Floreani …is allowed to be used in this country and yet this is the country where we’re not supposed to talk about the topic, so, of course, with that balance of some heavy regulation and some big hater groups who are funded by Big Pharma, we  just let it roll, because like I’ve heard you say a million times, if you don’t receive some scrutiny then you’re not important…

DeMoss …you’re not doing anything. If you’re not rocking the boat, I mean…

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Collection of blog posts featuring Jennifer Barham-Floreani

2013 

Anti-vaccine chiropractors 2

The Bachelor and the Bollocks

CAA chiropractors still associating with hard-core anti-vaccinationists

2014

CAA’s Jennifer Barham-Floreani talking at anti-vaccine chiropractic conference

Australian chiropractor Laurence Tham to present for US anti-vaccine chiropractic group

Anti-vaccine chiropractor Tim Shakespeare to co-present with anti-vaccine legend at anti-vaccine chiropractic seminar

Chirofest Seattle – starring Martin Harvey, Jen Barham-Floreani, and Andrew Wakefield

The precedent-setting chiropractor, Tim Shakespeare – with a DeMoss chaser

2015

Chiropractor Simon Floreani issued an official wrist-slap for anti-vaccinationism

Australian chiropractors promote anti-vaccine, conspiracy theory, chiro event

Chiropractor Barham-Floreani again on the bill with notable anti-vaccinationists

CAA chiropractor Barham-Floreani presenting and posing with rabid antivaxers #CAAGotYourBack 

Anti-vaccine chiropractors redux 13 – what’s new at CQU?

CAA’s Floreanis and pal Billy DeMoss together again at EPIC #CAAGotYourBack 

Scratching that irritating infection at the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia’s National Conference

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A Very Vaccine Free Australian Christmas 2015

Anti-vaccination activists in the secret Facebook group, Vaccine Free Australia, decided they would share some of their favourite one-liners which they use when family members harass, vilify and bully them at Christmas time. Deana Nichols kicked off the November 30 2015 post:

Deana Nichols Gah! Many xmas family gatherings approaching… What’s your favourite one liner to shut down pro-vax talk?

VFA 111 Deana Nichols christmas one liners

Rage-filled anti-vaccinationist – and Meryl Dorey’s favourite member of the Australian Vaccination-skeptics NetworkTristan Wells argued that any good anti-vaccination activist should dare their family to take his vaccine challenge:

Tristan Wells Tell them to take the entire infant immunisation schedule adjusted for their body weight. To give an idea, a 70 kg adult would receive around 400 vaccines over the course of 18 months. If they think that would be a walk in the park then they should take them. If not, they should shut up about other people thinking such a dose might not be such a good idea for their children.

Here is a lump of coal for Wells. He earned it:

coal lump

Wells kicked them off in the right spirit:

Danielle Thompson “Have YOU done 2 years of reading scientific research papers to make decisions on your own child’s health? No? Ok bye”

no idea 1

Danielle Thompson Informed decisions!

no idea 2

Tristan Wells I don’t think that one is very effective Danielle Thompson. What it does it reinforces the idea that research is the key. And (in the minds of vaccine fanatics) who has done all the research? The doctors of course!

So you are reinforcing the primacy of the medical community.

Now I realise that doctors have in fact done virtually no research on this issue but vaccine fanatics assume that they have.

Coal pile

Cherie Proctor Unfortunately it’s true.. They don’t get it… They trust their drs know :/

Leah Ashlyn “This topic is not up for discussion” is a good one.

Belinda Dow I don’t discuss vaccination status with potatoes and then deliver facts to the roast potato you’ll be eating on Christmas lunch passive aggressively

I have no idea what Dow is talking about; so, here is another related potato, available at your favourite First Dog on the Moon website. It’s Ian the Climate Denialist Potato:

Ian the Climate Denialist Potato First Dog on the Moon

Buy your Ian the Climate Denialist Potato, here.
Copyright First Dog on the Moon.

This next one is just dishonest, as we expect from anti-vaccination activists. The mocked up image provided by Christie does not “list death as a possible reaction”. And it does not list “RISKS”:

Donovan Christie Vaccine insert lists ‘Death’ as a possible reaction !

MMR Merck fake package insert

This is what the real Merck MMR II 2015 package insert says:

a causal relationship has not been established…

MMR Merck package insert MMRII deaths not causal

But, back to our amusing Christmas guests:

Crystal Dumais Shut up ! I am eating :)

Kate Hunt If they’re so safe, would you like to discuss the $3billion+ that have been paid out to vaccine injury victims in the USA, when 75% of claimants don’t get anything, and only an estimated 1-10% of vaccine injuries are ever reported?

no idea 3

Angela Herd That’s a goody!

Bill Oddie Ecky Thump

No. This is a Goody.

Bec Cameron Let’s agree to disagree. Or… Do you really want to ruin a beautiful day?

tetanus 2015

Tetanus. Ruins days.

Alisha Wood is a registered nurse, as well as a breastfeeding counselor for the Australian Breastfeeding Association, in Brisbane. Wood raises a good point:

Alisha Wood Ask them about their sex life. That sas talk will shut down faster than it takes them to say ‘the science is settled’.

Amanda Carson Lol

HPV photos

Human Papilloma Virus.

Monique Walker “You cannot mass medicate an entire population and expect there to be zero biological fallout. It defies common sense.”

smallpox

Smallpox.

Paul Lobwein “Let’s talk masturbation did you say?” “Sure lets do that I like to …….”   :)

Crystal Dumais Bahahahaha gold!!

zoster virus cornea Dr Daya Sharma

Shingles. Courtesy Dr Daya Sharma. Can make you go blind.

Jasmina Jak Don’t even get into it.. If they push, maybe just say this is not the time nor place. If they ask again, repeat this is not the time nor place.

whooping cough baby hospital headline 2015

Whooping cough. Never the right time.

Amanda Malady I’m going on a cruise for Xmas to avoid all this kind of crap!lol can’t think of anything worse then being cornered by family and in laws on Xmas day!!! If I was with them, I would say let’s not discuss….unless you have done hours/ years of research and have facts to back up your statement. Not Pharma funded government brainwash….oh, and my child is healthy as you can see, so what’s the problem?????

Measles cruise ship

Measles. Just a boat-ride away.

Camille Kazovic Ask them about their vaccination status. Most adults aren’t up to date with boosters etc and if they aren’t you can use one word – hypocrites!

shingles 2

Shingles. Adults take note.

Nikki Mitchell It’s 100% my/our choice, i’m 110% satisfied with the choice i’ve/we’ve made & i’m really not interested in a debate. How’s your job/house/trip or whatever other boring topic we cover at family catch ups

Diphtheria 2 collected

Diphtheria. Imported into Brisbane after a trip in 2011.

Bernadette Karajic My baby is not going to be that one in a million that dies.
Natural immunity is superior to vaccinations.
It is when I say I am prochoice, so lets leave it at that.

Meningococcal

Meningococcal. 100% natural.

Caitlin Withers I’d just laugh really loud and walk away…

Polio calipers woman

Polio.

Emma Wright Just ignore it. Who’d even talk about vaccination. It’s Christmas. None of their beeswax anyway.

Measles death Wales headline 2013

Measles. Everybody’s business.

Emma Raihania For things like Christmas I would just straight up say we’re never going to agree so I’m not talking about it I don’t want to argue at a family event

Whooping cough Jabbed family

Whooping cough. Courtesy Jabbed.

Sonia Alonie “It’s Christmas, I don’t want to talk about your sick determination to poison babies.”

Meningococcal 2 baby 2015

Meningococcal. Poisons babies.

Pauline MacGibbon Mind your own business! Does it every time.

Chicken pox headline 80 kids

Chicken pox. Everybody’s business.

Jessica Constable I said to my Dad last time he ranted about me and my sister not vaccinating “Keep going Dad and I’ll leave”. He stopped after that. That’s probably only useful on close family though

Influenza deaths headline 2015

Influenza. Thrives in close families.

Sammi Zajko I just say… “im happy to have this conversation with if, after you have done the same amoynt5of research that i have done on the topic. ” shuts them down straight away. Usually the only “research” they have done is watching Sunrise. Lol

Sunrise Riley

Whooping cough.

Natasha Chapman Id rather my child have a natural disease than one inflicted by me!

chicken pox infection

Chicken pox. 100% natural disease.

Crystal Dumais I am anti drugs! I don’t believe my child should be having drugs heheheheheehe  :)

whooping cough baby ECMO

Whooping cough. Drugs eventually don’t work.

Harrie Truscott i recommend going in with a casual spirit. i tend to stick to history – looking at my family and how we handled childhood illness and if they bring up herd immunity i ask when they were last vaccinated and mention the ‘protection’ time frame and they assumption im an idiot backs away into the back of their brain.

Polio iron lung

Polio. Stuck in history.

Linda Geiger Could you say there are so many reasons it would take too long but I’d be happy to go through it all with you another time. Then have all your stuff printed out ready to go when you do meet up. And maybe mention a few things that really stand out for you. For me it’s hep b for newborns and how the schedule has changed since my day (late 70’s) to name two things.

hepatitis B liver

Hepatitis B. 

Somewhere along the way the whole thing lost its festive, comedy zing. Sorry about that.

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Adelaide antivaxers now hosting chicken pox parties

Fresh from the horror week suffered by the Australian anti-vaccination movement – due to a now world famous chicken pox outbreak at a Brunswick primary school; an antivaxer’s baby being hospitalised with whooping cough; and the infamous, callous Hollie Singleton and her plans to infect other people’s children with chicken pox, at a chicken pox party – members of the anti-vaccination movement are planning another chicken pox party, in Adelaide. The plans are being made in the very same Facebook group – Vaccine Free Australia – in which Hollie Singleton alerted her colleagues to her plans.

On Wednesday December 16 2015, Agnes Dombrowoska of Adelaide informed her anti-vaccine colleagues that she planned to attend a chicken pox party on Friday (tomorrow, December 17 2015, at the time of writing):

Agnes Dombrowoska Question: we are going to a pox patry on Friday. What is the best way to get it? Our girl usually doesn’t get virus and chicken pox is viral

Dombrowska 1 VFA CP

Dombrowoska’s colleagues respond:

Courtney Hebberman As chickenpox is very transmissible,close contact could very well result in infection.
Some people can have a few spots to many.

Allison Walker And just because she doesn’t have any spots, doesn’t mean she wont get it, BTW.

Sylvia Ura Yep very true Allison Walker– my girlfriend had routine pre pregnancy blood work and it showed she had antibodies to chicken pox even though she’d never had the symptomatic form of the illness. She is unvaxxed so thats interesting smile emoticon

Grace Rayner  I’ve never had spots and my mum took me to pox parties as a kid!

Kerry Mazur Same with me

Tammy Bennett Remember it can take up to 21 days for spots to appear, so she will be contagious before then as well.

Agnes Dombrowska I’ll have all my friends over in that time for sure because then it’s immunity for life not some stupid undetermined period

Agnes Dombrowska … I thought it’s only 10 days, good to know

Tammy Bennett Sounds brilliant… my kids and hubby got it from a vaccinated neighbour, but kids get through it sooo much better than adults. My husband suffered terribly… that’s why I truly believe kids should be made to be exposed to this as children and not suppress with vaccines that may or may not produce immunity across 3 shots filled with MSG and guinea pig and human cell tissues… Ewww yuk!

Joanna Castro-Micos Where?? Can we come? smile emoticon

Becky Miles The trolls will love this. Expect the media to find you

Nicole Becker Edwards My friend born in 1969 had no chickenpox as a kid. Lived through all younger siblings having it. Got worried when their own kid got chickenpox (am I gonna get a horrific adult version) … Never got it. Then their next kid got exposed but never developed symptoms. So I guess their family genetics allowed immunity to be developed without any symptoms.

Grace Rayner Hopefully same for my sister and I! Been around it heaps. Never got symptoms.

Sarah Amel D’Amico I was near my brothers as kids when they had chicken pox i never got them but now i have immunity so she may not get them but may get the virus or immunity from bein there if that makes sense

Emma Louise from Melbourne states she also would like  to deliberately infect her children:

Emma Louise I have a 4 year old and 5 month old… That’s too young right? We are in Melbourne PM me if…. Hi trolls Xx

Agnes Dombrowska 4 – 5 y.o. that used to be most common age of getting it. My oldest was 4 at the time when she had it but youngest is 5 now and i dont want to have to deal with it at school times partly because if other families child is immunized with a shot it’s not for life and therefore they can get it and it can effect you for life if a teenage boy gets it.

Allison Walker Thats mumps. Not CP.
There is so much misinformation out there!

Dombrowska 4 VFA

Jasmin Vesnaver Are you ready for the media to knock on your door? Oh boy…the gates are open and the trolls are having a field day!

Leisha Allen mocks the deaths of children who have died from chicken pox and its complications:

Leisha Allen I can’t believe that pox parties are becoming taboo. Those who’ve attended one could probably still remember it as there would have been so many kids it would have beat a birthday party. And then they all got time off school together so there were many days playing at their houses or tucked up on the couch watching disney with some popcorn. Can’t say i remember the itching but i do remember mum painting me with lotion with was lovely. I don’t even remember how i died from it

Dombrowska 7 Leisha Allen

Melissa Huxtable In life….you can drink yourself stupid with alcohol and friends….take an array of drugs….illegal but as the newspapers report…can buy from china…giving folk inside knowledge on how to….can take a plethora of pharmaceuticals…have a range of sexual activities…be poisened by food….happens regularly…watch the most hideous violence and inappropriate behaviours that have negative affects on folk…studied and proven…which the governments allow for such materials to circulate….my family and another family were nearly taken out by a confirmed medical patient…who they still let drive…the authorities did not even bother to tell us any rulings on the case…yet a childhood infection is magnified to surreal proportions…have many folk missed something???
I personally like my family at home when any are sick and prefer not a heap of visitors…however the point is that it is glaringly obvious the agenda that is being pushed regarding childhood vacc.

Deanna Major I’m pretty sure I have seen this already screen shot

[VFA member’s father who is not anti-vaccine] … This brief fact sheet may be of use. It seems that the risk of developing a significant complication from catching the wild virus is much much greater than the risks from being vaccinated.
Chickenpox – immunisation
Immunisation against chickenpox can protect your child from getting chickenpox and from the possible serious…
BETTERHEALTH.VIC.GOV.AU

Melissa Huxtable Unfortunately just giving a shot…vacc…for chickenpox is not limited to the above article…there are many other issues to he considered…ethical… human rights….immune condition of a child…..and a better understanding of health…

Betül Kurt Oruç A chicken pox party, Awesome!

Abbie Fetter I have a friend in USA, that was mailed a lollypop and pair of pajamas used by an infected child. Both her girls got the vius and recovered, as expected. They made sure their diet was as clean as possible and prepared to be home that week.

Dombrowska 8 VFA chicken pos lollipops

I’ll add to this thread as comments come in.

As with our call for the Queensland health complaints act to be bolstered so as to more easily hold health misinformants to account – along with a call to investigate the possible criminal prosecution of those who abuse children by deliberately infecting them with preventable diseases – I would also like the South Australian and Victorian governments to do the same.

These children need stronger health complaints legislation to protect them and their friends from anti-vaccination zealots.

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‘The weak are meant to die of infectious disease’ – chicken pox party mum

Hollie Singleton is the anti-vaccination activist Brisbane mother who has become infamous in the last few days for being the person who wants to infect children with chicken pox, by holding chicken pox parties. Singleton has been roundly condemned by every reputable health department, medical association, health professional and politician who has been sought for comment.

Singleton was even allowed to Gish Gallop her way through a very soft Sunrise interview, just this morning:

Singleton 1 Sunrise party scrapped

“Each to their own”, David Koch stated at the end of the outrageously inept interview.

Each. To. Their. Own.

This is Hollie Singleton’s view on death eliminating “the weak.” Each to their own.

This is Hollie Singleton, commenting in the Vaccine Free Australia Facebook group, on December 12 2014. Read through this a few times to see exactly what she is saying:

Truth as I see it is too harsh for most to accept: illness keeps population in control and is meant to eliminate the weak and build a stronger species. I’m not liked for that belief, but it is really how I believe we should be understanding our kind.

Singleton 4 VFA December 12 2014

…illness keeps population in control and is meant to eliminate the weak and build a stronger species.

Only two paragraphs up Singleton lamented the lack of community spirit:

The lack of true community is also the problem

But it’s okay for “the weak” to die. There’s a love heart at the end which makes everything better.

This is not the first time we’ve heard such callousness from an anti-vaccinationist, about chicken pox and death. Remember the AVN representative who rang bereaved dad Chris Kokegei, in 2010. From my earlier blog post:

After the Sunrise interview Chris Kokegei received a phone call from his Sunrise contact. They had received a phone call from a woman who claimed that she was also the parent of an injured child, and that she would very much like to talk to Chris. Chris gave the okay for Sunrise to pass on his mobile phone number to the mystery caller, not expecting anything untoward.

The woman rang. She had an American accent and she introduced herself (Chris cannot precisely recall the name given), saying that she was from the Australian Vaccination Network. He had no idea who she was, or what the AVN was about. The woman immediately conveyed her concerns to Chris that he was advocating something which was dangerous and ineffective (the Varicella vaccine), and questioned him as to whether he should be doing this. His advocacy was going to harm more children, he was told. When Chris told her she does not have the evidence to back up her claims, the woman told him to go to the AVN website to find all of the information. The woman also told Chris that his son must have been weak, to have succumbed to such a harmless disease. These things are a matter of survival of the fittest, he was told.

On September 2 2010, the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network even mocked the death of Chris’s son, Michael Kokegei: they laughed about his death:

It’s not April Fools today, it’s spring!

AVN 6269 September 2 2010 admin mock the death of a child chicken pox

It is good to see that Singleton is being held to account by another mother, whose son is best friends with Singleton’s son. It appears that Singleton’s son infected Shannon’s son. Shannon also has a brother who is immunocompromised due to chemotherapy: one of the very contraindications Singleton notes in her soft-touch Sunrise interview. Singleton’s hypocrisy would melt steel beams.

Shannon noted, furiously:

The media being “biased” is because the entire medical community feels your chicken pox party is misguided.. exposing your kids and others to unnecessary risks (1% will have serious complications), including shingles, death etc. You over-inflate the risks related to vaccinations, and under-estimate the risks of the disease, as do all anti-vaxxers.. Well, looks like my son is in the 15% of vaccinated kids who can still catch chicken pox… Thanks for nothing. I doubt if we lived in a 100% vaccinated world that he would have caught them off your son. I’m just grateful he’s not immuno-compromised, and I guess we’ll just quarrantine ourselves to stop killing anyone who is…

Singleton 2 profile Shannon

Shannon further outlined her perfect reasons for feeling aggrieved:

My boy has only had pox in the last few days.. it’s within the incubation period of last seeing his best friend. The only kid we know with chicken pox.

…perhaps get your kids vaccinated to reduce the risk in the first place? That, and because Hollie is on national TV boasting about spreading it?? And because my kid’s bestie being the posterchild for not vaccinating, puts my kid’s risk of exposure higher than if his bestie was just another vaccinated kid at school?? And because people like my brother recovering from chemo are at greater risk from decisions like this?? Enough reasons to be a little ticked off??

I blame her for thinking she knows better than her childrens’ doctors and not vaccinating… and then using that as a position to grandstand on, to the detriment of my kids, her kids, my brother, and our community.. I would be lying if it hasn’t made me re-evaluate the relationships between our families. Is chicken pox enough to break up a 6 year old friendship? How about measles? Meningitis?? Would it then be too late??

Singleton 3 profile Shannon cont

Kudos, Shannon. Kudos.

I hope Singleton’s hubris and nonchalance about the welfare of other children will lead Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk and Health Minister Cameron Dick to consider bolstering Queensland’s health complaints act, to bring it up to speed with the NSW Health Care Complaints Act, which was amended due to the anti-social public health threat posed by Meryl Dorey and her anti-vaccination cabal, the AVN.

It may also be time for serious consideration to be given to criminal prosecutions for people who willingly practice child abuse by deliberately infecting children with potentially life-threatening diseases.

Why should we even need to consider this?

Why?

Because there are many more people who are willing to abuse children by deliberately infecting them.

From Vaccine Free Australia, on December 12 and 13 2015; Jean macpherson planned on infecting her grandchildren:

Macpherson 2 VFA grandkids

McPherson 1 VFA germs parties

I’ll leave the last word of hypocrisy to Singleton, herself. Singleton is upset with the media, claiming she has been stalked. This is the same person – whose Facebook profile is set to public – who has given interviews to several media outlets, including several television networks, after bragging in the Vaccine Free Australia group (December 7, below), about the benefit to her business from increased media exposure. Now she threatens them with “harassment suits”, whatever they are. From December 14 2015, at approximately 1500 hours:

Singleton 5 VFA media stalking harassment

From December 7 2015; Singleton bragged to her friends about the media exposure she will receive so as to promote her business. She even included a winky face:

Singleton 6 VFA December 7 2015 viral business media

On December 11 2015, Singleton commented on the Brisbane anti-vaccine protest event page:

Yay! I was interviewed today for the Sunday Mail (in Brissy) about Chicken pox, and I’m very happy to keep climbing the media ladder!

Singleton 11 Bribane Protest3 December 11 2015 happy for media

And Singleton was still thumping her arrogant chest regarding live media interviews, on December 14 2015, on her profile, at 2132 hours:

Oh god I’m famous now! If I get a live interview, it’s on!

Singleton 9 profile live interview its on

So, Singleton complained about “media stalking” and “harassment”, on Monday afternoon. Then, only six hours later, she bragged about wanting a live interview. And three days previously she bragged about “climbing the media ladder!”

Breathtaking.

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Antivaxers Gone Wild 2 – more tribute pages!

Two days ago I published a post about a new Facebook page which has been created in my honour by the Victorian anti-vaccination lobby, called The Unreasonable Wank.

Well, they were so happy with their efforts they’ve made two more.

First up, showing their range of comedic talent, there is…Unreasonable Wank. Nailed it.

The about page:

Watch this space.
Wink wink, wank wank.

UW2 1 about wink wink wank wank

This bizarre page, which we must remember was created to bring down this blog, as well as to further the cause of Australian anti-vaccinationism, is as equally cringe-inducing as its namesake:

Lynette Kennedy At last he is finally EXPOSED!

Unreasonable Wank Well baby, im quite fond of exposing myself – but only the good bits…. Want to find out more?

UW2 4 page Kennedy

Then there’s…oh man:

Do you want a hot load?

UW2 6 hot load page

And…these:

Winkedy-wink.
Wankedy-wank.

***Bangs dick on table***

UW2 5 page posts

The posts to page…oh boy:

I wank all over people. Wink-wink, wank-wank

UW2 3 Trahan

Vogon poet laureate of the anti-vaccination lobby and long-time member of the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network, Christine Phethean, makes an appearance:

Christine Phethean 

Definitions
Buffing the Banana
Holding Your Sausage Hostage
Jackin’ the Beanstalk
Rounding up the Tadpoles
Slap Boxing the One-Eyed Champ
Spank the Frank
Applying the hand brake
Attacking the one-eyed purple-headed warrior
Auditioning the finger puppets
Beef-stroke-it-off
Boxing the bald champ
Charming the snake
Checking for testicular cancer
Choking Kojak
Squeezing the cream from the flesh Twinkie
Straddle your paddle
Taking matters into your own hands
Teasing the weasel
Thumping the pump
Tickling the pickle

UW2 1 Phethean

Brett Smith, the anti-vaccination lobby’s sexist thug, also chimes in:

Lucas Jackson Kelly

Special shout out to Reasonable Hank. He’s just found out there is a Measles Outbreak in Sydney!!!! Run to the Hills, Run for your Lives!!!

UW2 2 Brett Smith

Strangely enough Christine Phethean and Brett Smith both have me blocked on Facebook.

The second tribute page is named, outrageously, Reasonable Hank.

Here’s the about page:

Hi, I’m Hank and I’m reasonable. Really, its true. Other people like me, so there! When was the last time you were as validated as I am every day?

RH1 1 about

Then there’s the posts:

RH1 posts

Hands up who broke the 12 year olds.

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Antivaxers Gone Wild – meet “The Unreasonable Wank”!

Post updated December 22 2015:

After a very quick search it has been established that the owner of the “Bernie Smith” account is Ollie Dutchie, the partner of Giselle Kara Vles, both of Brighton, Victoria.

Their real names are Olivier Vles and Giselle Vles, as seen in this submission to the Victorian No Jab No Play submission. This is the Facebook page for their clothing business.

Publicly available images courtesy of Facebook:

Dutchie 2 Vles pixelated

Olivier Vles (Dutchie) also added the Bernie Smith account to the Unvaccinated Australia Facebook group, where it is an admin, along with Giselle Kara Vles:

Vles 5 Dutchie UA added Bernie Smith

All posts and comments from The Unreasonable Wank Facebook page –  which was created by Olivier and Giselle Kara Vles – are now available here, in text format:
The Unreasonable Wank all threads December 22 2015.pdf.

Original post:

Right now – at this very minute – Melbourne anti-vaccine activists are having a picnic day in Brunswick, in Melbourne. Most of you would already know that Brunswick North West Primary School is now world famous for having low immunisation rates and high chicken pox rates: 80 students struck down with chickenpox in Brunswick school outbreak. Both of these events are happening right now, in one area of Melbourne.

Brunswick map

So, I’d like to contribute to these very same Melbourne anti-vaccine activists – the admins and members of Unvaccinated Australia (UA), who featured in another shocking story only yesterday, about the baby of an anti-vaccine activist being hopitalised with whooping cough – by celebrating with them their creation of a new Facebook page they made in my honour, only a week ago: The Unreasonable Wank.

First I’ll give a special mention to the admins of the UA Facebook group who created or champion the creation of The Unreasonable Wank (TUW):

UA 111 admins Brett Smith Bernie Smith Wiseman Kalinov Vles

The Unreasonable Wank first popped up a week ago with posts in UA and another anti-vaccine group, Anti-Vaccination Australia (which is administered by Belgin Sila Colak). The brand new profile, UA admin Bernie Smith, is the page creator:

UW 1 UA Wiseman Bernie Smith pixelated

And:

UW 2 AVA post liked pixelated

Checking out the TUW page itself is…it’s a work of art…which…it brings a tear to the eye.

The cover photo is a headstone…because they want me dead?

UW 12 headstone pixelated

[Edit: it has just been pointed out to me by Karen on Twitter that this headstone is not a photo-shopped image, as I originally thought. It is a real headstone. The husband passed away in 2005. The wife passed away in 2015. Their relatives and descendants are still very much alive. This makes the actions of the Unvaccinated Australia admins even more disturbing. I have pixelated the updated image, above] 

The profile photo is a masturbating hand…because pr0n:

UW 6 wank hand Howard like

This one tells me I am a “wank stain”…because misfire:

UW 4 wank stain Howard like

And the TUW’s about section notes:

Making fun of the unreasonable wank that calls himself Reasonable Hank.

UW 3 page about pixelated_censored

The contributors to the TUW page have excelled.

Joanne Howard is a registered nurse and midwife who featured in an earlier post, and who will feature again:

To  you Mr Wank!

UW 7 Joanne Howard bird

Brett Smith is the resident anti-vaccination stand-over man who shatters all the myths about love and light:

Special shoutout to our good mate Reasonable Hank who has just found out there is a measles epidemic starting in Sydney right now!!! Good Lord mate our prayers are with you. I hope you’re ok mate? Quickly get yourself another booster shot. Run to the Hills, run for your Life!!!

UW 8 Brett Smith

This is the village idiot and favoured troll of Meryl Dorey and her anti-vaccine cabal, the Australia Vaccination-skeptics Network:

This is also Reasonable Hank.

https://www.facebook.com/Rosalie-Hilleman-700606060056078/

UW 9 Dingo Rosalie

And this is the courageous, anonymous UA admin, and creator of TUW:

Reasonable Hank??? Get your babies ready!!!

UW 10 Bernie Smith

It would appear that all of the people listed above were galvanised into their emotional regression by another post which appeared in the UA group, written by deregistered enrolled nurse, alternative health crackpot and demonstrable liar, Louisa Kenzig, who has featured in this blog before for her rancid vilification of bereaved parents.

On December 3 2015, Kenzig made the following false and defamatory post – about a vexatious and false complaint she made against a doctor – and the anti-vaccination activists piled on over the next two days. I have removed the names of my two friends, as well as my real name, because the anti-vaccination activists make false allegations of paedophilia against one of my friends. The dementing, delusional Louisa Kenzig believes I am all of the people in her post.

So, Unvaccinated Australia admins and members, who are meeting up for a Christmas picnic in Brunswick right now, enjoy your day!

Veritas Aléthia

December 3 2015 at 17:15 · Perth

Anyone else on the receiving end of Reasonable Hank/[Me]/[Dr friend]? After the 4th known complaint about ‘[Dr friend]” behaviour, this is the latest response from AHPRA – bear in mind he called me a baby killer and Reasonable Hank went onto his blog to share as much information about me as he could – complete with twisted facts about what I said and who I am…. He and [me] play tag team and then go on a rant on Reasonable Hank… No wonder the medical system is in such a state –

“The medical board decided to take no further action because –

  1. [Dr friend] did not make comments to you on Facebook which could be perceived as disrespectful, attacking your family’s safety, or exposing your place of residence.
  2. [Dr friend] merely engaged in a debate with you regarding the effectiveness of vaccines.
  3. [Dr friend]’s comments appear to be his personal opinion and not professional advice.”

So a doctor can do or say what he likes publicly, so long as he keeps jabbing away…. All about money.

The comments are as follows.

Sarah O’Reilly and Lynne Hopewell feature in my post regarding anti-vaccinationists attacking the memorial page of Riley Hughes:

Sarah O’Reilly Well if he has been defamatory then you might be able to do something via Constitutional Law which is different to the rubbish system that he is protected under by the look of it.

Lynne Hopewell I commented on a post that was referring to Baby Riley the other day some woman tagged me to Horrible Hanks page but I couldn’t find anything when I went and checked just paid trolls all of them

Veritas Aléthia It would be hilarious how they tag each other – if they weren’t doing exactly what they claim we are doing..

Joanne Howard is a registered nurse and midwife, as noted above:

Jo Howard Type in my name in Google and reasonable Hank, yes I’ve had run ins with the prick. He tried (.unsuccessfully) to get me fired

Veritas Aléthia He had the gall to call the organisers of a health workshop I was scheduled to talk at. For my own safety I had to pull out and allow someone else to do my presentation. Pretty pathetic effort considering the topic that day was helping the lower socio economic to live and eat healthier – nothing about vaccines 😉

Farrah Tate Wow ladies, that is awful  :/

Lynne Hopewell Yep found it https://reasonablehank.com/tag/lynne-hopewell/

the woman that put me there was MICHELLE RAMAGE and I didn’t say anything bad just pointed out that they cant prove that the unvaccinated infected their child

Posts about Lynne Hopewell on reasonablehank

reasonablehank.com

Kate Smith is the partner and business partner of Health Space Clinics chiropractor Adrian Dennewald. They run Denneroll:

Kate Smith He tried to discredit me too. He is a sleaze bag

Kate Smith He keeps everything you write or his moles do.

Sarah O’Reilly Charming character.

Veritas Aléthia What a miserable life to dedicate your days and nights to stalking others. Considering how many of us have been stalked, he was either not breastfed or his mum really hated what she gave birth to 😉

Kate Smith Someone told me reasonable Hank is an [Friend’s former occupation]

Sarah O’Reilly I thought that as well.

Loloma Viti He should change his name to Unreasonable Hank.

Veritas Aléthia Supposedly is but if you go by how much effort is put into this stalking obsession he has, I have a feeling he was sacked. Can’t find any professional info on him but then again he probably has a dozen aliases.

Kate Smith It looks as if they still have moles in this group?? Brittany Smith

Veritas Aléthia Do you mean THIS group? Why?

Kate Smith When I posted a letter to an MP only in this group that night reasonable Hank like a 8 yr old dibber Dobber wrote to the mp and told him that I was associated with a chiropractor and that’s where the abusive letter came from. I told the admins and they rescanned everyone but I believe there are possible moles here

Veritas Aléthia Wow what makes me laugh is that he actually thinks natural therapists are criminals. He did the same with me – tags others to read my comments. I had never heard of him until [Dr friend] tagged me to sick him on me haha. Pretty pathetic. How very dare you ‘associate’ with chiropractors… 😉

Farrah Tate Yes definitely has moles in this group… that is clear from the link Lynne posted.

Trent Wiseman, the UA admin, posted a series of images which were created by troll Ian Hastings to attack myself and my friends; the same images which led to death threats sent to me and my friends by Frank Vazquez. Wiseman became active in the anti-vaccination movement, with his wife, Emma Wiseman – who owns Emma Wise Photography – when the No Jab No Pay legislation was proposed earlier in 2015:

Trent Wiseman It seems as though someone had made [Friend] as hank returned the disrespect and invasion of privacy to which he subjects others

Kate Smith Karma

Trent Wiseman Not even a drop in the ocean of what he deserves. So [Friend], founder of stop the avn, seems to be hank and [Me]. Hank won a sceptics award and [Me] accepted on his behalf, jokes were made about them never being seen together. It’d be safe to assume that with all of the twisted units in savn, it’s likely that a few of them post under [Me] and hank though.
May you all show these guys no more respect than they do us. And to their trolls in this group, get a life. May karma return your malicious behaviour tenfold

Lo Mong Where on earth did you get this poster Trent? LoL it is truly scary but I reckon it is spot on after much research & speaking to the people who have argued with him on Twitter & FB. He is a massive drunk & late at night makes mistakes by answering in different identities!

Veritas Aléthia AHPRA don’t even care that [Dr friend] could be the same person. Someone must be paying him good money…

Kate Smith Has anyone ever seen this reasonable Hank in person?

Veritas Aléthia Not that I am aware of.

Peter Angel Psychopath wanker is the real name of its website.
I’ve been on the site but comodo says don’t go there.

Peter Angel You’ve heard the term ‘don’t feed the troll/s’.

Learn about psychopaths & ignore them. Feeding them is what they get off on.

[posts three YouTube videos]

Trouble is our financial system is run by them, governments are run by them & worst of all our governments are run by big pharma, which is the worst of all the psychopathic industries !

[posts more YouTube and other video links]

Managing extreme personalities: Part two

[posts ten more links]

This is a typical trait of the psychopath where they will place themselves at the center of dramatic events in order to impress people and thereby more easily manipulate them.

Consider now some of the traits of a psychopath drawn up by Dr. Robert Hare, who really is an expert on psychopathy. Hare devised the PCL-R 20 checklist, which is based on Hervey Cleckley’s 16-item checklist, and ask yourself does any of it fit with the known behavior of Thomas Sheridan.
GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM — the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — a grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM — an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have a low self- discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine. PATHOLOGICAL LYING — can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT — a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims. SHALLOW AFFECT — emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY — a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE — an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR — a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests. IMPULSIVITY — the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

[posts another YouTube video]

Lindell White The only thing i can think of to say to them anyway begins and ends with the “C” word lol

Brittany Smith Wow that’s awesome – thanks/

Veritas Aléthia The funny thing is, [Dr friend] is a psychiatrist [he isn’t] which is interesting. Speaking to psychologists about his ramblings is a real hoot.

Erin Anne Yep, he went through my facebook account taking screen shots then posted them to forums I had recently commented on. He was warning the public about people like me. I put a complaint into facebook but they just said the photos were removed before they could see them. I blocked him.

Renata Bialkowska is a film school graduate of the University of Technology Sydney. Bialkowska recently used UTS amenities to hold an anti-vaccine seminar which she also filmed as a part of an anti-vaccination documentary she is making:

Renata Bialkowska He also took screen shots from my Facebook which is not public but for friends. So Either we’re friends with a traitor who feeds him or as Peter Angel showed with the warning if you read his website he knows how to hack your account.

Veritas Aléthia Major hacker. A few of us did little ‘tests’ by typing in searches into our google and voila he was talking about the same topics to us. Creep.

Peter Angel Erin Anne & others harassed by these psycho’s !!!

Take your own screenshots & keep exact records of their harassment & REPORT them to the police !!! And make SURE you get a report number !!! Ring the police weekly & keep following up with them until something is DONE ! If enough people do this these scum will be prosecuted & hopefully jailed !

Veritas Aléthia Maybe we do an exposé like a class action to expose just what the medical board are promoting? Especially if we tie in [Dr friend]’s activity. All the screen shots where they have spoken on the same threads and played tag.

Lo Mong Bridge featured in an earlier post for vilifying the mother of deceased baby, Riley Hughes. Lo Mong Bridge discusses how she and her colleagues are planning to have this blog taken down:

Lo Mong Yep Hank’s has a full page written on me. He is trying to ruin my sister’s acupuncture clinic even though she wasn’t even involved in commenting on my thread posts. I’m in the middle of writing a blog page to show how he manipulated my comments, & did not show everything I said including the tragedy of babies dying on both sides, vaccines damaged side as well as the disease side, when I commented on the Light for Riley page. I know we shouldn’t give these trolls more attention then they deserve however don’t you all think we must all blog to show him for what he really is? The public needs to see he is pretending to be a concerned citizen when, really he is paid by pharma to sit there all day & night to attempt to tear people’s reputation & livelihoods apart. I reckon down with this loony!

Peter Angel He needs to be reported to the police for vexatious harassment & any other charge a good lawyer or chamber magistrate can come up with . People need to seek the best free legal advice from several sources.

Lo Mong We have already got advice from a friend at top federal police end who deals with scams & he said its is very costly & drawn out to take it through courts unfortunately   :(
There has to be a way collectively to do this. Hanks has slandered so many professionals, a lot in the chiropractic industry. He even slandered one chiropractor for making a hospital visit to treat her friend! And said she must step down from her chiropractic association. What a nasty piece of works he is! He has tried to defame so many, I was thinking it would be best that we all work collaboratively to bring him down. Renata Bialkowska has a WordPress blog set up specifically for this purpose. She is happy to upload anyones’ written piece against Hanks to set the record straight. Sure one side of the argument is, if we ignore him, we won’t give him much power. However wouldn’t it be better if clients or customers search our names on the internet, they’ll see Hanks’ dirty slandering, but they’ll also come across our articles showing what a dirty game he plays?

Veritas Aléthia To me, as he seethes with loathing re any alternative health professional, seems to come from a medical bias. He sure doesn’t know much about alternative therapies but is obsessive about them Sad that psychopaths are allowed to have computers but the world isn’t fair. The mere fact he selectively copies part comments to make non vaxxers look bad shows how sick he is. In effect he is inflicting more pain on the people who have suffered loss, under the guise of supporting them. A bit like a psychiatrist getting his jollies by torturing sexually abused kids mentally by dragging up all their pain.

Lynette Kennedy Veritas Aléthia this is the first I have heard of this guy just reading through the tread, I had written on the baby Riley article I expressed my sympathy to the family then about my story and how my 4 week old did not get whooping cough after having been doubly exposed to it but my comments were deleted. As he a psychiatrist they say they have the highest suicide rate, so one can only hope or even suggest it to him. He sounds obsessive and very very sadistic also quite mad not just a psychopath. I hope he doesn’t cross my path.

Lo Mong Hanks won Skeptics of the year in 2004. He said in an article that he wasn’t able to go but [Friend] went to collect on his behalf. From what others have said, they were arguing on thread posts with Hanks, & then [Friend] jutted in answering back on the same subject. So I reckon this guy is actually [Friend]! [Me] is just another cover up name.

Veritas Aléthia I knew a [Friend] – he was a paedophile. Lived in my home town and got away with it. Horrid little poison ‘man’ with a small man complex.

Lynette Kennedy Most probably is him they are warped and twisted, you should ask him if he was the paedophile with the same name that lived there.

Veritas Aléthia I did – no answer – just a ton about me on his dodgy page, accusing me of some of the very things he does (attacking bereaved parents, etc).

Kristy Anne McCarrick concern-trolled the Light for Riley memorial page, at the behest of Trevor Simons, who also features in this post of anti-vaccinationists who attacked the Light for Riley page:

Kristy Anne When Light for Riley posted an article regarding a study that allegedly proved the safety of DTaP during pregnancy, I posted that despite these studies, no vaccine manufacturer has claimed safety on any package insert. I then linked to an article that had recently come out, that summarised more recent research on the vaccine (lack of effectiveness in preventing colonisation, possibly encouraging colonisation of b.parapertussis, etc.) I said nothing directly to Riley’s parents, nothing harsh or inflammatory, but a few days later my name was added to a list of those nasty anti-vaxers harassing Riley’s poor parents! It was shocking for me, as I have never condoned that kind of behaviour, and have always encouraged civility and respect when discussing the issue of vaccines. But now if anyone searches my name (and he made sure to say my real last name, even though I had changed to Kristy Anne by that point), that comes up.

Veritas Aléthia Same. He sent me the list with my name on it. All I’d said – after expressing my sadness at their situation, was that there seemed to be a lot of people pretending to be Riley’s family as no way would a bereaved mother be able to be all over every blog on the subject.

Lynette Kennedy If anything all the non vaxxers that I have come across are loving parents and the most sympathetic towards anyone who had suffered the loss of a baby, yet when I have had a look at the pro vax sites it’s full of nasty vitriol and nothing properly researched or educational just full of “conditioned hatred against people who won’t toe the line and conform to be vaccinated. This a new thing because years ago nobody could have cared less what you chose to do. They have to be selected paid trolls, the general public wouldn’t be bothered.

Fiona Elizabeth is Natural Holistic Mum – which changed its  name to Conscious Life Mama – who has been making parody memes out of the public health advocacy images created by the Light for Riley memorial page:

Fiona Elizabeth It is possible to take people to court for online defamation on social media… Kayla did it against freelee banana girl and won, and what she did wasn’t half as ad as what R Hank is doing to many on here … Yes it would be costly, but eventually what he’s been doing will come back at him http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/…/story-fni6uo1m-1227286028720

Bikini Girl and Banana Girl settle their online war

adelaidenow.com.au

Mung Bean Thanks for sharing the link. Good to know it is possible to win. However can you imagine taking the subject of vaccination to court? Regardless if Hanks exaggerated claims, can you imagine what a biased pro vac judge would be capable of? It could turn out to be another attack on us pro choice folks

Fiona Elizabeth Yep true, but the subject wouldn’t be vacc it would always be the harassment… Anyway one day he will harrass the wrong person, ie someone very wealthy who canafford the court process..

Brittany Smith Thanks for taking care of this Trent  :)

Farrah Tate I am so sorry for what you are going through. Utter defamation. Such despicable behaviour. His site is disgraceful. Someone has now twice added a smut ad on Locanto using my mobile phone number. I have been advised to change my number. Pain that is! I have friends and family who are staunchly pro choice but I’m really shocked they’d share my phone number with someone who would do this to me. I would never do that to anyone.

Sarah O’Reilly How horrible that they would do that to you.

Trevor Simons Wow I’m so out of the loop with this!!

Erin Anne On Friday I typed my name into google search. Up came reasonablehank with my name included as one of the anti vaxxer’s targeting Riley’s parents. I’ve never even been on Riley’s page. He used one comment from an anti vax site I had commented on. All I said was “he probably had Heb B and Vit K but not the whooping cough vaccine.” You should read the comment at the end including people thinking we should have our children removed!! I think it’s defamation.

Veritas Aléthia Yes same happened to me. He is inciting hatred and violence – he needs to be stopped. But he’s such a coward that he’s in hiding.

Adam George Crabb These toilet bugs are just pathetic & how low can they go.

Veritas Aléthia Love it!

Lo Mong Bridge had changed her name to Mung Bean whilst this thread was continuing:

Mung Bean I have been told to contact Google about violation of rights. I have a friend who got blogged saying he killed people or sent patients into hospital with his therapies which were not true. He complained to Google, not the platform which the blog site was hosted on, & he was able to get that total blog removed! So we should all work collabaratively to get his whole website removed!!!

Kristy Anne That’s a great idea, I’d be up for that. If we could band together and submit a joint complaint to Google, it might have more impact. My complaint would probably be a bit weak on it’s own, as he quoted me once, but misrepresented the context.

Mung Bean We have lots of people whom he has tried to defame so they will only be too happy to do this

Veritas Aléthia Anyone up for going through his ramblings? I guess we need to google our names online and screenshot what he has come up with. Take it from there.

Mung Bean I’m happy to go through & collate all the names of people he has vilified. There will be hundreds! However writing is not my strongest point, so maybe I can leave that to someone else?

Veritas Aléthia Happy to proof anything as necessary to make sure it’s worded its best. Also as a few journos are starting to get a little interest, maybe we could get them on board to expose him and draw him out of his cave.

Erin Anne Here is a good place to start. There is a list of us in this article. I didn’t even know Riley’s mum was Young Australian of the Year!!! https://reasonablehank.com/…/sydney-antivaxer-attacks…/

Veritas Aléthia Yup – and nothing for the poor parents whose healthy babies died from vaccine injury….

Mung Bean Thanks for offering to look over my writing Veritas
I think to make the biggest impact, it would be better getting each person to write a personal complaint about how he defamed them. Then we all send it off together so this will make a huge impact. How he has gone about vilifying each person is slightly different so we need to really get down to details of how he has violated each person…..I think we will have a strong case against him with Google.

Veritas Aléthia We also need to use the other names -[Friend], [Dr friend] etc – all involved in some way, if not the same person.

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Death threats from Frank Vazquez of South Australia

This post will be of interest to quite a few readers who have been on the receiving end of death threats, threats of harm, and other abuse from supporter of the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network, Frank Vazquez of Paralowie, South Australia. More broadly, we’ll see some of the problems one might encounter when attempting to have those who send death threats held legally responsible for their actions.

Vazquez 100 August 2015 photo

Publicly available image courtesy Facebook 2015

Frank Vazquez is a well-known anti-vaccination conspiracy theorist who is infamous for making bomb, arson, and death threats against those with whom he has disagreements. He operates under several Facebook profiles which appear and disappear according to the flow of his paranoia:

Vazquez 44 known accounts

Over the previous two months I have been liaising with South Australia Police after I lodged an Australian Cybercrime Online Reporting Network (ACORN) report. From the outset I will say that the SA Police have been wonderful with this investigation, given the limitations enforced upon them.

There are two sections under the Commonwealth Criminal Code Act 1995 which would apply to most instances of online abuse and death threats:

471.11   Using a postal or similar service to make a threat

Threat to kill

(1)  A person (the first person ) is guilty of an offence if:

(a)  the first person uses a postal or similar service to make to another person (the second person ) a threat to kill the second person or a third person; and

(b)  the first person intends the second person to fear that the threat will be carried out.

Penalty:  Imprisonment for 10 years.

Threat to cause serious harm

(2)  A person (the first person ) is guilty of an offence if:

(a)  the first person uses a postal or similar service to make to another person (the second person ) a threat to cause serious harm to the second person or a third person; and

(b)  the first person intends the second person to fear that the threat will be carried out.

Penalty:  Imprisonment for 7 years.

Actual fear not necessary

(3)  In a prosecution for an offence against this section, it is not necessary to prove that the person receiving the threat actually feared that the threat would be carried out.

Definitions

(4)  In this section:

“fear ” includes apprehension.

“threat to cause serious harm to a person includes a threat to substantially contribute to serious harm to the person.

And the second section:

474.17 Using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence

(1)  A person is guilty of an offence if:

(a)  the person uses a carriage service; and

(b)  the person does so in a way (whether by the method of use or the content of a communication, or both) that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, menacing, harassing or offensive.

    Penalty:  Imprisonment for 3 years.

(2)  Without limiting subsection (1), that subsection applies to menacing, harassing or causing offence to:

(a)  an employee of an NRS provider; or

(b)  an emergency call person; or

(c)  an employee of an emergency service organisation; or

(d)  an APS employee in the Attorney-General’s Department acting as a National Security Hotline call taker.

With the threats made against myself and my family the SA Police first needed to get the go-ahead from the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions (CDPP). The CDPP agreed that they would prosecute Vazquez’s death threats against myself and my family, should the SA Police satisfy the usual hurdles: the various profiles must belong to Vazquez; the profiles must resolve to Vazquez’s IP addresses; there must be a log of the comments made at the times shown in the evidence presented; and, the threats must pertain directly to myself and my family. The evidence against Vazquez follows.

December 2013 – October 2014:

Vazquez 34 all PMs threats and abuse

May and June 2014:

Vazquez 30 dms

I will address the above items, first, before we continue with others.

One of the limitations faced by SA Police – to which I alluded, above – was me. I left it too long to report these older threats. This is my fault. I did not address these threats earlier because of a previous demoralising, condescending experience with NSW Police, who belittled previous reports I had taken to them which pertained to sustained abuse being heaped on bereaved parents by anti-vaccine trolls. I didn’t want to go through that again.

Although we know these threats came from Vazquez we could not directly link his IP address to these messages, at the precise time they were sent, as Vazquez uses a mobile phone to administer his multiple profiles. Mobile phone data is only kept for a couple of months by Internet Service Providers. I simply left it too long.

On October 1 2015 – at the exact moment my ACORN report landed in South Australia – the anti-vaccine Facebook page, Refutations to Provax Memes – which is administered by troll Ian Hastings of No Fluoride Australia – posted a meme which was intended to incite anti-vaccination activists into action against Ken McLeod, Reasonable Hank, and Peter Tierney. Anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists believe that I (RH and PT) am Ken McLeod, Peter Bowditch, Rosalie Hilleman, Maureen Chuck, Anne Blake, Courtney McCarthy, and several other names. And, as you can see by the times in this screenshot, Hastings got the desired effect. Vazquez bit:

Vazquez 117 RTPM October 1 2015 both posts

In fact, Vazquez the internet detective thought he’d step it up a notch. I have pixelated all of these images. This is the post he made which appears in the above image:

Vazquez 116 Ken image RTVM October 1 2015 pixelated

Vazquez, who had been escalating his rhetoric again for some months, then sent me another series of private messages on Facebook, on October 4 2015. Vazquez was now including Ken McLeod and Ken’s wife in the death threats. First message:

Vazquez 114 Ken death threats pixelated 1

Second message:

Vazquez 115 Ken death threats pixelated 2

Third message:

Got us [Got youse]

U evil twisted son of a cunt enjoy looking over Your shoulder 247 cunt

Your poor wife

Vazquez 104 PM death threat re Ken Karen October 4 2015

The CDPP did not consider these threats to have been made against me, personally. Even though they were sent to me, and these conspiracy theorists believe Ken McLeod and I are the same person, these threats also fell short of the required evidentiary standards.

One other death threat which I sent to SA Police – which was made against Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull in the anti-vaccination group, Anti-Vaccination Australia, on December 2 2015 – is, I believe, still under investigation by a separate authority having been reported by others:

Vazquez 111 Turnbull getting assassinated AVA Dec 2 2015

Only the previous day, in the same anti-vaccination group, on December 1 2015, Vazquez made these threats against Bill Gates:

Vazquez 110 Bill Gates dead child killing monster walking

I’ll include more of Vazquez’s threats against others at the end of this post.

So, that is the end of my current episode with Frank Vazquez. I couldn’t publicise this until now.

So, what do we do if confronted with death threats and abuse from this point on? Report it immediately to ACORN. It really doesn’t take that long to lodge a report. It will be taken more seriously than my previous disheartening experience with NSW Police. The longer you leave it, the more likely the required data will no longer be available when demanded under warrants.

And, remember, there are now precedents set for prosecution under the sections of the Criminal Code Act 1995 noted above. In a notable case, lawyer Mariam Veiszadeh took the brave step of standing up to online abusers with a successful prosecution against one of them, in 2015.

Vazquez’s collection of threats.

June 18 2013: local council officials

Vazquez 9 fucking dead council officials walking

September 6 2013: No Fluoride Australia in agreement with Ian Hastings

NFA 25 Vazquez dead politicians walking

January 9 2014: AVN Facebook page

Vazquez 119 Jan 9 2014 AVN page

March 31 2014: death threat against Dr Paul Offit and family on the Facebook page of the National Vaccine Information Center

Vazquez 28 Paul Offit

July 2014: threats against Tanya Plibersek Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs

Vazquez 124 July 2014 Tanya Plibersek

July 30 2014: death threat via private message to Martin

Vazquez 118 death threat PM to Martin

January 2015: various death and bomb threats, and accusations of paedophilia, against many people on Michael’s Restaurant Facebook page

Vazquez 52 Michael's comments death threats 1

Vazquez 53 Michael's comments death threats 2

Vazquez 54 Michael's comments death threats 3 bomb threat

January 2015: arson threat against Kareela Golf Club

Vazquez 45 Kareela Golf Club burns down

January 2015: death threats against then-PM Tony Abbott at the time of the Sydney terrorism siege, on the Lindt Cafe Sydney Facebook page

Vazquez 37 death threats Tony Abbott

January 2015: threats against Katrina

Vazquez 125 Jan 2015 KatrinaVazquez 126 Jan 2015 Katrina

Vazquez 127 Jan 2015 Katrina

Vazquez 128 Jan 2015 Katrina

January 2015: threat against Alec

Vazquez 120 January 2015 Alec death threat

January 2015: threat against Brian

Vazquez 121 January 2015 death threat Brian

January 2015: threat against Xandy

Vazquez 122 Xandy threat Jan 2015

January 2015: threat against Natalie

Vazquez 129 Jan 2015 Natalie

January 2015: against Allison

Vazquez 148 PM to Allison January 2015

January 2016: threat against Allison

Vazquez 147 PM to Allison January 13 2016

I will add to this list as images come in.

For more on the incitement of violence and the escalating violent rhetoric of the anti-vaccination and anti-fluoridation movements please see Beware the violent antis – Lismore Mayor physically assaulted – updated, which features an abridged history of the sustained campaign of abuse and vilification of health activists, journalists, and politicians, by people such as Ian Hastings, Meryl Dorey, Barbara Loe Fisher, and Sherri Tenpenny.

See also Tristan Wells of the AVN calls for the execution of vaccine workers.

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Board member of CAA QLD admits to discussing vaccines with clients who then cease immunising

Repeating a timeline of the troubles we’ve seen in Australian chiropractic over the last few years runs the risk of boring you all to tears. But, it is important. It is important to remind those who are meant to be exemplars of good practice in this regulated health profession that there are indeed standards upon which some – indeed, more than others – of these registered health practitioners should be be keeping an eagle eye. It’s not hard. There are lists of things a practitioner cannot do. It is even written out for them. How good is that?

On May 4 2013, due to a tide of bad press because of the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia’s penchant for anti-vaccinationism, at the highest levels, including Continuing Professional Development courses, the CAA was dragged kicking and screaming into  making a rather non-committal – but, nonetheless, binding – policy announcement:

CAA Position Statement on Vaccination

The CAA (National) Board position on vaccination is:

  • Chiropractors do not provide vaccination services;
  • Chiropractors should encourage their patients to make informed health care decisions and to consult their GP in relation to the risks and benefits of vaccination.

– May 4, 2013 CAA National Board Meeting

On August 8 2013 the Chiropractic Board of Australia sounded the trumpets in a chest-thumping press release regarding the profession’s embarrassing affliction:

The Chiropractic Board of Australia cracks down to protect the public.

The Chiropractic Board of Australia is cracking down on chiropractors who step outside their primary role as healthcare practitioners and provide treatment that puts the public at risk.

To protect public safety, the Board has:

  • ordered practitioners to remove all anti-vaccination material from their websites and clinics
  • removed several courses from the list of approved CPD programs, and
  • introduced random audits of practitioner compliance with the Board’s registration standards.

In November 2013 the president of the CAA, Laurie Tassell, gave his CAA’s ingrates a serve about their online behaviour, and their astonishing reluctance to acknowledge that there are indeed Codes and Guidelines which regulate how a registered health practitioner should act. From Tassell’s President’s  Report, in The Australian Chiropractor magazine:

In my presidential address, I paid particular attention to the major issues that we need to confront:

  1. The unethical use of websites to claim cures for conditions that cannot be supported by research evidence continues to be a major problem for the profession. At the time of the NDF [National Development Forum], the CBA had received 155 new complaints regarding the inappropriate use of websites. This is an issue that continues to astound me. Maybe when some of you receive substantial fines or suspension you will understand the significance of your selfish and unprofessional actions.
  2. The damage to the profession from the unprofessional use of social media – personal attacks on chiropractors who might hold different views to you, bragging about entering hospitals without permission and posting photos with well known speakers openly critical of vaccination are not acceptable. Complaints to the CBA have been lodged and some of you will be subject to disciplinary action. Once something is posted on the net it is in the public domain. Private or closed sites are being accessed and trolled.
  3. I feel it is time for the profession to change the way it tells its story. It is my personal belief that the concepts of conservatism, holism, vitalism and naturalism are central to the practice of chiropractic. However it is my opinion that the discussion of these and other philosophical concepts should take place within the profession. Our external communications should more accurately reflect the nature of our interaction with our patients and be consistent with being a mainstream health care professional. It should also create unity within the profession.

Indeed, dad is angry because the kids are spoilt brats who keep giving everyone the bird and stacking the Beemer. It is only fitting, then, that the very Facebook group to which Tassell alludes – where the “bragging” about sneaking into hospitals was uncovered in 2013: the Australian Chiropractic Philosophy Society (ACPS) – is the very same group from where today’s evidence was also collected.

Adam L Smith 23 admins and members of ACPS

Again, the anonymously-sourced information found in the closed Facebook group ACPS is being published in the public interest, and in the interests of public health and safety. The ACPS Facebook group has 396 members and information from this Facebook group has been published on many occasions. Far from wondering whether or not the members still expect privacy in this group, I find myself wondering only, “what the hell are they thinking?”

One question which does indeed get answered for us is the question of appropriate practitioner conduct in the privacy of the clinical setting; where only the businessperson and the customer are privy to what is done and said. It has long been thought that no matter what empty threats of sanctions are huffed-and-puffed by the CBA; and no matter how much this does indeed coerce some chiropractors into behaving like healthcare practitioners on social media; there is little that can ever be done to ensure that the privacy of that clinical setting is not abused by any practitioners.

There are really only two ways in which the community or regulators can find out what is happening inside the clinic.

The first method we have of finding out what is going on is when a customer makes a complaint about information being provided by their chiropractor. Realistically, this is just not going to happen. The customers are in for a penny, in for a pound with the chiropractic faith. Simon Floreani was cautioned for retaining anti-vaccine misinformation at his business, long after the CBA’s taunts; but, we can only guess what is happening inside the treatment rooms, and guessing doesn’t help anyone.

The second method we have of finding out is when the arrogance of certainty compels a chiropractor to brag to their peers of their disdain for their own Codes and Guidelines. And, sometimes, this does happen. It happened with the aforementioned sneaking into hospitals saga. And every now and then a chiropractor comes right out and plops it on a thread. Paul Lawrence – of vaccines are rape fame – did this on August 22 2013 (also in the ACPS group), bragging to his peers of how he still provided influenza immunisation misinformation to his customers:

Lawrence 5 advised patients about flu vax

When the CBA made its August 2013 declaration against anti-vaccination misinformation, Jennifer Barham-Floreani brazenly stated in public –  the very next day – that she would not be complying with the CBA’s demands. And she’s still registered, for some reason:

But high-profile chiropractors say they will continue providing information about both sides of the vaccination argument.

Chiropractor and author Jennifer Barham-Floreani says it will not stop her colleagues from giving patients advice.

“Chiropractors will certainly be working towards making sure that the information that they convey to parents is the latest, up-to-date information that presents both sides of the vaccination debate,” she said.

So, today’s star is a chiropractor we have met before, in Anti-vaccine chiropractors 11. Here is Mr Adam L Smith:

Adam L Smith practice[d] his business at the Surfers Paradise Chiropractic Centre in Queensland.

In May 2013 he shared a petition created by Meryl Dorey, Australia’s most notorious anti-vaccination zealot. The petition is based on a lie. The title gives it away:  Stop the vilification of parents whose children have been injured or killed by vaccines.

Smith also made these standard anti-vaccine comments:

So your point essentially Scott is that because a lot of people believe injecting their kids with poisonous chemicals that may or may not actually work, everyone should.

There are so many things wrong with the THEORY of herd immunity that I literally can’t even start that discussion typo on my phone. My only point I will make on it is that those who are well read, researched and knowledgable on the topic invariably choose not to vaccinate their children. Yet those who believe everything in the newspapers and media, and thoughtlessly roll up their own sleeves for flu shots etc do vaccinate.

And this awful claim:

The former boost their kids immunity and health in other ways and so far I have not read a media report of an unvaccinated kid dying from any of these diseases. It’s the supposedly protected, vaccinated kids who are getting sick and dying from the very diseases they are supposedly immunised against.

Why, if vaccinations really work is this the case?

Also, sorry for the addition, but the drop in polio cases is not ‘thanks to vaccination’ there are so many other factors at play that reduced the spread first, well before the vaccine was even developed.

Since that 2013 blog post Smith has moved on to another business, called Healthstyle Centre Robina. And Adam L Smith is now also a board member of the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia Queensland. He is the secretary; with his Surfers Paradise Chiropractic Centre colleague, Bruce Whittingham, assuming the presidency:

Adam L Smith 6 board member of CAA QLD

I’ll include some more of Smith’s businesses’ Facebook posts, which I believe are in breach of the National Law, down the page. And I’ll include relevant sections of the Code of Conduct, the Social Media Policy, and the Guidelines for advertising a regulated health service, in an addendum at the end of this post. I will also include two ACPS group threads in further addenda at the end of this post. There is just too much to include here.

On November 23 2015, Trent Headlam of Life Chiropractic Oxenford, and EPIC Healthstyle in Oxenford, attempted to start a discussion of the recently passed No Jab No Pay legislation, in the ACPS group, by citing what he believed to be a quote by Adolf Hitler (it isn’t). I include this for context. As noted, I’ll put the whole thread in an addendum:

Trent Headlam: “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.”

Adolf Hitler

What are some thoughts everyone on actions we can do for this No Jab no pay Bill?

Crown funding for legal council?

Anyone know a good Lawyer that would take this on?

ACPS 1 Hitler 1

The next day, November 24 2015, an exasperated Headlam posted again, starting a different thread, disappointed that his rallying cry was largely ignored, except by a few:

Trent Headlam November 24 2015 at 20:48: Yesterday I posted a pretty serious comment regarding the groups thoughts on the new laws passed that discriminate against Australians right to non-discrimination of health choices for there families. Thank you to Clinton McCauley Stephen Kirby and Clare Molino for your comments and contributions. Is there only 3 people in this group that care about this? 1st we have our rights to give patients unbiased information on vaccines, now they are taking government subsidies away if you don’t vaccinate.. What’s next??? Banned from daycare? Banned from public school? Then what? Legally mandated immunisation for every Australian?

This is not a vaccine debate it is a freedom of speech, choice and a right to non-discrimination.

Vaccines carry real risks to an individual that are public information and are disclosed by the manufacturer of the vaccine to the degree of a very rare adverse event being less than 1 in 10000 for one particular vaccine on the national program. Times that by 3 doses and that’s becoming a very real risk… a parent should have the right to freely choose and without coercion the choice to way up the risks and benefits for their own children. We’ve already lost our rights as practitioners lets at least stand up for them as parents. Chiropractors used to go to Jail so patients could receive an adjustment and now we won’t even make a comment about a bill that passed to our own peers in a closed group. Step up

Adam L Smith 7 ACPS 1

Commentary immediately noted that the provision of immunisation misinformation is something which chiropractors would do well to avoid. I can almost hear Laurie Tassell’s ECG printing out from here:

Braddon Atkinson November 24: Hey Trent, whilst I agree that your question might be directed towards our rights with freedom of speech. It is based around a topic that is too heavily scrutinised to run the risk of public commentary. – Plenty of people in this group will give you stories of issues with comments ad posts being taken out of context and reported to authorities. As much as I understand your frustration I think people realise it is safer to not open themselves up to exposure about this topic. Personally I think they have that right to do so without being ridiculed for it.

Adam L Smith November 24: Exactly Braddon Atkinson. I am one of those people who can show you exactly that. I am apparently ‘Australia’s 11th worst anti-vax Chiro’ – and that came from 1 FB post about the original law… I have strong personal opinions but publicly on FB you can’t express them without it costing you time, stress and even actual money in lawyers fees.

Tim Shakespeare November 25: So I guess THEY won then…

Braddon Atkinson November 25: Yep. That round

Trent Headlam November 25: I think we forfeited

Astonishingly, Smith – a CAA QLD board member – then makes this admission, noting the discussions he has with his customers regarding immunisation. He states: “I talk with my patients about the evidence that exists” – in the trusted, private setting of the clinic – and “more and more often” his customers completely cease immunising their children:

Adam  L Smith November 25: The lost was incurred several years ago when the CBA adopted into law a specific section of the code prohibiting is from discussing vaccines. This meant that any troll with a vested interest felt he/she had grounds for filing a complaint of the mere word is uttered. Trying to wage war against vaccines and big pharma on Facebook is in my opinion useless and just opens us up for ridicule and attack. I talk with my patients about the evidence that exists and let them make their own choices. More and more often the choice they make is to alter or stop the schedule for their kids. It is not my place to tell anyone what to do on this subject. especially not on Facebook. I do t think the war is lost, this is just not the battlefield.

Adam L Smith 11 ACPS 5 clinical antivax advice given

When it becomes apparent that Smith’s admission has become known outside of the ACPS group, he later makes these strong denials that he ever discusses immunisation with his customers, except when he does. On November 29 2015, Smith states:

I don’t ‘discuss vaccination’ with people. What I do is say ‘I am forbidden to have an opinion on vaccination by my regulatory board. So what I suggest you do is do some research into the pros and cons of the current program in Australia, and maybe what some countries overseas are doing too, then form your own opinion. Your GP will give you certain information, but you will have to search for the rest. I’m sorry I can’t be of more help.’

The conversation usually ends there unless they ask about my own kids and what we do as a family, in which case I tell them.

As we have already seen, above, Smith states that immunisation is “injecting [your] kids with poisonous chemicals.” I’m glad he sorted that out for us.

And again – on November 30 2015 – in this comment in which Smith explicitly gives permission for his comments to be shared from the ACPS group:

For whoever in this forum is passing screenshots to certain bloggers and other trolls, please pass along all of my comment not just parts. To be clear, I do not discuss vaccination nor do I give advice on vaccination to my patients. I tell them I can’t advise them, and that they have to do their own research. I then respect whatever decision they make, and get on with the day. Further to my comment right at the top, even in this inter-professional forum comments are taken and used by the media against us. Please be aware that even though no patients or members of the public (should) have access to this group yours and my comments will absolutely make it out there.

Adam L Smith 25 ACPS denial provides vaccine info

As noted, the full thread will be included below. I strongly encourage you to have a read of the whole thing. It is enlightening. In it you can see how subluxationist, or vitalistic, chiropractic has much in common with cults: if you do not submit to the teachings of the cult you will be vilified; you will have your character questioned and you will be smeared by the thought leaders.

On Adam L Smith’s business pages we can see that subluxationist chiropractors are clearly not listening to the Chiropractic Board of Australia. These chiropractors know they will not face any serious sanction. They know the CBA will take over a year to investigate any allegations of breaches of Codes and Guidelines. They know that, even if they are found in breach, nothing will  happen to them. They will get a small slap on the wrist, in private, like a toddler caught defecating on the cat (again!): the mortified parent too embarrassed to tell anyone.

Those who raise these issues are vilified – they are called pharma stooges, vested interests, or industry shills, who are being well-paid for asking chiropractors to comply with their own damned regulations – by these chiropractors who need to be publicly shamed into removing outrageous claims, like this claim on Smith’s previous business page, asserting that chiropractic can treat autism. This method appears to work more efficiently than the CBA and AHPRA.

We have claims like this one, that chiropractic can treat ear infections:

Adam L Smith 17 Healthstyle Centre ear infections

This claim that chiropractic care makes healthier babies:

Adam L Smith 18 Healthstyle Centre chiro makes healthy babies

Again, a claim that chiropractic grows healthy kids:

Adam L Smith 19 Healthstyle Centre kids healthy chiropractic

Remember what Smith admits discussing with his customers, in private, about immunisation.

Here we have the promotion of the anti-vaccine advertorial, Doctored:

Adam L Smith 20 Healthstyle Centre Doctored

And then there are the obligatory testimonials. Remember, Smith is a CAA board member. How can this still happen? This behaviour is illegal. Testimonials are against the National Law:

Adam L Smith 15 Healthstyle Centre testimonial

Adam L Smith 16 Healthstyle Centre testimonial

Adam L Smith 21 SPCC testimonial

Adam L Smith 21 SPCC testimonial (2)

Adam L Smith 22 SPCC testimonial

Tell the Chiropractic Board of Australia. Tell the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia. Tell the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency. Tell your state and federal health ministers. Tell your state’s federal senators. Tell your private health insurance providers, who subsidise these bizarre vitalistic practices with your contributions. Rational chiropractors grab your metaphorical pitchforks in outrage. This is not good enough. This enduring regulatory and legislative silence, with its lack of transparency, will not do. It cannot pass. This anti-vaccination-infected, faith-healing cult masquerading as legitimate healthcare cannot continue. This will not do.

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Addendum 1

The Hitler thread, November 23 2015:

Trent Headlam: “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.”

Adolf Hitler

What are some thoughts everyone on actions we can do for this No Jab no pay Bill?

Crown funding for legal council?

Anyone know a good Lawyer that would take this on?

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Ben Moore: It won’t be easy to change this policy. You’ll need to find/develop good quality evidence to prove that vaccines are harmful. If you can prove that then you have a starting point to remove the no jab no play law.

What won’t help is attributing made up quotes to a tyrant.

“Yeah, Ben is totally right” – Mahatma Gandhi ;/

Clair Molino: I met up with Jim Turner an incredible lawyer in the US who is working with an organisation called Citizens for  Health to overturn the vaccine laws in California. He feels that getting this law delayed first will be a step forward to bide time to then get it overturned. This will then have a knock on effect in Australia – the little country that can’t think for itself and follows whatever happens in the US. I asked Jim how we can best support his organisation and he said raising money would be helpful. I  am open to helping this happen. He helped represent Dr Tedd Koren overturn a massive legal battle regarding chiropractic literature in the past in the court system. A David and Golithe situation. I have met Jim twice overseas – he is incredible and passionate representing alternative health www.citizens.org

Clinton McCauley [see more here]: Apparently by 2018 anyway the family tax benefit part a and part B are not going to be paid out any more. The budget of 2018 has not included those payments.
Therefore that means they will get their pay for three years and then no one will get paid no matter what their vax status.

Ben Moore, I have seen that quote attributed to Hitler several times, do you know who actually said it if it is not true. I am just interested.

Ben Moore: Clinton McCauley. Google suggests the quote comes from the eleventh chapter of a book entitled Wilfully Ignorant by Pat Miller.

Clinton McCauley: Thanks Ben!! Suits Hitler better or maybe Obama!!!

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Addendum 2

The Adam L Smith admission thread, November 24-30 2015:

Trent Headlam November 24 2015 at 20:48: Yesterday I posted a pretty serious comment regarding the groups thoughts on the new laws passed that discriminate against Australians right to non-discrimination of health choices for there families. Thank you to Clinton McCauley Stephen Kirby and Clare Molino for your comments and contributions. Is there only 3 people in this group that care about this? 1st we have our rights to give patients unbiased information on vaccines, now they are taking government subsidies away if you don’t vaccinate.. What’s next??? Banned from daycare? Banned from public school? Then what? Legally mandated immunisation for every Australian?

This is not a vaccine debate it is a freedom of speech, choice and a right to non-discrimination.

Vaccines carry real risks to an individual that are public information and are disclosed by the manufacturer of the vaccine to the degree of a very rare adverse event being less than 1 in 10000 for one particular vaccine on the national program. Times that by 3 doses and that’s becoming a very real risk… a parent should have the right to freely choose and without coercion the choice to way up the risks and benefits for their own children. We’ve already lost our rights as practitioners lets at least stand up for them as parents. Chiropractors used to go to Jail so patients could receive an adjustment and now we won’t even make a comment about a bill that passed to our own peers in a closed group. Step up

Braddon Atkinson November 24: Hey Trent, whilst I agree that your question might be directed towards our rights with freedom of speech. It is based around a topic that is too heavily scrutinised to run the risk of public commentary. – Plenty of people in this group will give you stories of issues with comments ad posts being taken out of context and reported to authorities. As much as I understand your frustration I think people realise it is safer to not open themselves up to exposure about this topic. Personally I think they have that right to do so without being ridiculed for it.

Adam L Smith November 24: Exactly Braddon Atkinson. I am one of those people who can show you exactly that. I am apparently ‘Australia’s 11th worst anti-vax Chiro’ – and that came from 1 FB post about the original law… I have strong personal opinions but publicly on FB you can’t express them without it costing you time, stress and even actual money in lawyers fees.

James Love November 24: #BeenThereDoneThatGotTheTShirt

Trent Headlam November 25: Thanks Braddon, I was not attempting to ridicule anybody and I’m sorry if it came across that way.

Tim Shakespeare [see more hereNovember 25: So I guess THEY won then…

Braddon Atkinson November 25: Yep. That round

Trent Headlam November 25: I think we forfeited

Adam L Smith November 25: The lost was incurred several years ago when the CBA adopted into law a specific section of the code prohibiting is from discussing vaccines. This meant that any troll with a vested interest felt he/she had grounds for filing a complaint of the mere word is uttered. Trying to wage war against vaccines and big pharma on Facebook is in my opinion useless and just opens us up for ridicule and attack. I talk with my patients about the evidence that exists and let them make their own choices. More and more often the choice they make is to alter or stop the schedule for their kids. It is not my place to tell anyone what to do on this subject. especially not on Facebook. I do t think the war is lost, this is just not the battlefield.

Jillian Natalie Hunt November 25: All I say is that I’m not vaccinated & my kids aren’t vaccinated….if they want evidence, people SHOULD have the right to be informed & have a choice

Trent Headlam November 25:Adam can u pls send me which part of the code actually mentions that I can’t seem to find it?

Adam L Smith November 26: http://www.chiropracticboard.gov.au/Codes-guidelines/FAQ/Position-statements/Provision-of-health-information.aspx  – that is one link, and this is usually the page the trolls refer to.

Chiropractic Board of Australia – Provision of health information
Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency
CHIROPRACTICBOARD.GOV.AU 

Alex McLennan November 25: The only way to give unbiased information, as a Chiropractor, on vaccines is to say “That’s not in my scope of practice. You’d be best off talking to your GP about that”.

The new laws are not discriminatory. They aren’t forcing anyone to do anything they don’t want to. They are removing one of the conditions for financial support for families. It may have the benefit of boosting vaccination rates in those who have forgotten, but it is unlikely to force anyone into vaccination if they have a preconceived view that they are evil and cause more harm than good. I would guess that most parents agree that you couldn’t pay them enough to do something they felt would harm their child.

Comparing this legislation to things Hitler (may not have) said was not a great way to start a discussion. Calling out colleagues for not being passionate enough to go to jail for your ideology is also not a great discussion point. This is not a Chiropractic fight. By all means protest as a private individual as is your right.

Ben Phillips [see more here] November 25: Alex McLennan I have to disagree (hopefully politely) on what you have asserted here.

This is a chiropractic fight in two senses. First is the issue of the unfair standard we are being held up to and second is the fact that it is our freedom as health professionals that is being impinged.

First, is the scope of practice issue. You (and the Board) are holding us to a false standard – it is innacurate as best (and downright farcical otherwise) to argue that most GP’s have the training, beliefs, independent analysis, time or inclination to truly explore this issue, and therefore they ALSO do not provide unbiased information. Their information is completely biased (in most cases), just in the opposite direction, and they are not required to explicitly inform their patients of this.

It is true that not all chiropractors have fully investigated this issue, and some of these (or many) may have their investigations and opinions informed by an ‘anti’ or a ‘more natural living’ perspective in terms of the information they have chosen in the

past to provide; if this is clearly expressed as the rationale behind the information delivered, they should have the right to provide it.

There is by all means an argument that their needs to be balance and reference to the other side of the argument. However, if this is the argument as to why chiropractors cannot comment due to being outside ‘scope’ then the same opposite argument applies to the vast majority of medical professionals that also do not give accurate information about risks and such; information needed to help their patients actually give true informed consent.

(Many never even give the package insert to their patients – a document which does often highlight more serious risks, even if minute in frequency…funny, don’t we have to provide an informed consent document suggesting that stroke could occur in a frequency of somewhere between 1 in 2mil-6mil? Such a minute risk-frequency, but we have to provide this information as chiropractors – there is no equivalent expectation that GP’s actually bother the give this vaccine data to their patients and for that matter get them to sign a document that says they understand and accept such risk).

These professionals are informed by the position that vaccination is of enormous benefit, and skepticism of this is tantamount to heresy. They often belittle patients who ask questions, or ostracise them because they believe so strongly in their position.

The fact that this issue in particular (as the only one so singled out) is apparently out of our scope is nothing but political expediency and image control against FOSiM and others that have always belittled our profession. It is not about ‘protecting the public’. The argument is not that we do not have the training or expertise to provide accurate information, it is that the information many chiropractors have historically provided contradicts the dominant position. Clearly this does not hold when we think about other ‘health information’ that we may provide to our clients/patients that we perhaps only received minor training in at a pre-professional level. For instance, nutrition information, exercise, stretches and movement, stress reduction techniques, alternatives to pain management. There are all kinds of areas that we often talk to people about that are not necessarily taught at uni – information about pillows and sleep posture; suggestions for how much sleep someone might need to function at their best…the list goes on.

Interestingly the board asserts that the Immunization Handbook is the relevant reference point for accurate information about use of vaccines in Australia. This document clearly states in the disclaimer at its beginning that the Australian government will accept no responsibility for the information contained therein, or harm caused by following the advice provided therein! Now that inspires confidence about it’s accuracy!

By muzzling us on this issue, there is now precedent to stop us providing pretty much any information outside of a pure (neuro)-musculo-skeletal framework – something a future board may choose to do, or feel pressured to do.

It also takes into no account further training either formal or informal that may have been done after university to become knowledgeable on a given issue.

Second, you argue the no jab, no pay laws are not discriminatory. You are completely wrong in this assertion. Many low income families (as a chiropractor you may be unaware of this) deeply depend on these financial benefits to stay afloat. When you are in dire need for a financial supplement, it becomes an instrument of coercion, that can force people into a given behaviour. Vaccination is a medical procedure. It does have risks. If there is ANY form of coercion, financial or otherwise, there can be NO informed consent. This is a basic tenet of what constitutes informed consent. The numbers of conscientious objectors in Australia was, and continues to be very low. The legislation DOES discriminate about these people who have made this conscious choice (and it is rare that someone would register as such, with all the hoops you must jump through to achieve this, unless they had done their own research and come to a decision not to vaccinate).

If vaccination is indeed the medical miracle it is claimed to be, education should be used as the primary method of informing people and encouraging their behaviour. The Law Institute of Victoria recently released a public position paper arguing this very point.

Trent Headlam November 26: Thank you Ben for a very concise comment. Alex it may be worthwhile checking out the word discrimination..
“Discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit.”
Can u please explain how these laws don’t fall into the definition of discrimination?
Also I haven’t seen any interest in chiropractic philosophy coming from you ever are you sure you’re in the right group here? Can anybody vouch for Alex?

Alex McLennan November 29: Ben, I appreciate your polite comment. I think your comments are a little off topic in that they don’t seem to relate to this particular legislation, but I’ll answer them anyway.

Firstly in regards to the unfair standard comment. GPs have their own [unavailable]

Adam L Smith November 29: By way of providing some clarification Alex. Section 3.3 of the code you linked to does not mention anything specifically about package inserts, but it does mention discussing risks:

“Listening to patients, asking for and respecting their views about their health, and responding to their concerns and preferences.

Encouraging patients to tell you about their condition and how they are currently managing it, including any other health advice they have received, any prescriptions or other medication they have been prescribed and any other conventional, alternative or complementary therapies they are using.

Informing patients of the nature of, and need for, all aspects of their clinical management, including examination and investigations, and giving them adequate opportunity to question or refuse intervention and treatment.

Discussing with patients their condition and the available management options, including their potential benefit and harm.”

It would seem that a central tenant of GP’s working with their patients is to discuss potential harm not just the potential benefits.

Also they are compelled to give people ‘adequate opportunity to question or refuse intervention or treatment’.

The government policy in question seems to place GP’s at direct odds to their code of conduct.

Also I personally could not be paid enough to endanger my children in any situation, but that being said I don’t rely on government payouts to be able to feed my children either.

I disagree that ‘this policy is no more discriminatory against the poor as it is the rich’. Your argument that the rich are being discriminated against by earning too much to be eligible for the FTB and therefore are just as affected by the No Jab No Play policy is absurd. If you can’t get the FTB you are by definition not affected by a policy further restricting its conditions of distribution. You comment is similar to saying that because I am not a farmer and therefore cannot get any government assistance for my vegetable garden, I am affected as much as farmers are by the rule changes redefining what is and is not a drought…. It’s just not the same thing.

Lastly, no one is forcing anyone to undergo a cervical adjustment. There is no one even suggesting that, because every healthcare procedure carries some risk, and therefore MUST also be able to be refused by the patient (or the patient’s legal guardian) just like the GP’s code of conduct mandates.

Alex McLennan November 29: Thanks for the reply Adam, and for answering my general question.

Again, the insert issue is irrelevant. We are not required to provide copies of research that we quote our figures from in our own informed consent, except in cases where it is asked for. GP’s and all health care practitioners are held to the same standard. The inserts themselves are long, complex and beyond the understanding of the average lay person. For example, people often misunderstand the line “without respect for causality” when quoting inserts. There is also a common misconception around certain ingredients.

There seems to be a general assumption that medical practitioners are hiding the “truth” or misrepresenting associated risks. Some here seem to assume that GPs in particular do not discuss potential harm. Those people then claim to have as much or more knowledge around vaccination than their GP counterparts. Yet there is a stubborn refusal (or perhaps a gulf wide gap in knowledge) to answer another of my questions around the benefits of vaccination. If you are going to hold GPs to account and demand they speak of the harm and good with an intervention, then surely if you are serious that your knowledge is equal or superior, you should be held to the same standard. You yourself Adam, admitted in another post that you find patients opt out or change their mind (paraphrasing to save me time scrolling for your exact words) after discussing vaccination with them. I would ask you the same, if you feel yourself qualified to give advice or information, then what are some benefits of vaccination? Are their any populations that you would say benefit from a strong vaccination program?

I don’t follow the logic that this policy is at direct odds to the medical code of conduct. Again, this policy is not forcing people to do anything they object to.

I agree. There is no amount of money you could pay me to deliberately put my child in danger. Having said that, we constantly take calculated risks with their and our own safety. (Driving them in a car or swimming for example; both of which cost more child loves each year than adverse vaccination reactions in Australia)

I’ll concede my argument against this policy being discriminatory was poorly worded and confusing. The point I was trying to make was the government could be seen to be discriminatory with many policies if you choose to see it so. In order to obtain certain payments, you need to fit a certain criteria. Hence my point being that this policy is no more discriminatory than high income families being ineligible for the FTB. Saying this discriminates against the poor is like saying the government discriminates against obese smokers on the transplant list. It is only holding people accountable for their life choices as a way of measuring out limited funds. Once again, I would point out that this policy is not forcing anyone to undergo a medical procedure against their will. The policy clearly states who qualifies for these payments. It even clearly states the conditions around being unvaccinated and still having access to these funds.

Adam L Smith November 29: Yep, I thought you might have worded the whole FTB thing poorly. I understand your point even though I don’t necessarily agree.

I regard to a part of your comment, I don’t ‘discuss vaccination’ with people. What I do is say ‘I am forbidden to have an opinion on vaccination by my regulatory board. So what I suggest you do is do some research into the pros and cons of the current program in Australia, and maybe what some countries overseas are doing too, then form your own opinion. Your GP will give you certain information, but you will have to search for the rest. I’m sorry I can’t be of more help.’

The conversation usually ends there unless they ask about my own kids and what we do as a family, in which case I tell them.

My practice members don’t ask me to tell them what to do, they are usually asking ‘have you heard about x, y, z thing?’

Here’s the thing Alex, I’m not anti-vaccine by definition (this is a longer discussion than my thumbs can take on my iPhone right now) so I find it humorous that I have been labelled so. I am anti ‘forced vaccination’ in fact, I am anti ‘forced anything’ in relation to healthcare.

If I am asked about my thoughts on the government’s policy when sitting on any of the various committees I am involved with, then I will certainly give it, but for now I think we have likely ‘point and counterpointed’ this discussion to a good place to stop.

I can certainly see your viewpoint, and even though I disagree with some of your points, I respect your right to have and express them. I also realise that I cannot change your mind in this forum, so I will not waste either of our Sunday’s trying to do so.

I hope you have a great Christmas and New Year Alex. Good day.

Alex McLennan November 30: Agree to disagree. I appreciate you taking the time to respond and I also hear you on the iPhone thumb issue.

Adam L Smith November 25: The danger is always in the question, where is the line between private individual and professional for us Alex McLennan? It has been successfully argued before that ANYTHING a registered chiropractor says in regard to healthcare is deemed professional advice, and as such is not ‘private’. I have a professional Facebook page, and a personal Facebook account, but you can be absolutely sure that my personal account will be screenshot and presented as my professional viewpoint should I type something deemed inflammatory by anyone with a vested interest. Effectively what this situation has done is force us to either not engage in our beliefs or communicate our views, or run the increasingly certain risk of a formal complaint against us that we need to then waste time and money defending. The answer of course is that everyone is in theory entitled to their opinion, and discussing those opinions should be conducted in a reasoned and respectful manner…. good luck with that.

Alex McLennan November 25: There is more weight added to what you say if you are deemed a professional in that area. Facebook, like the rest of the internet, for better or worse, is public domain. The board has mandated that we do not discuss things outside our scope. There is good reason for this. Bad information can cost people dearly. There is a way to reduce your risk of being investigated. Just like there is a way to reduce your risk of pulled over for speeding. Stick to the rules.

Tim Shakespeare November 25: If this is outside our scope why are university students tested on their knowledge of this issue?

Adam L Smith November 25: Good question Tim. I don’t have an answer for that.

Alex McLennan November 25: http://chiro.mq.edu.au/news/vaccination-immunisation/

http://handbook.murdoch.edu.au/courses/details/?us=59021

Vaccination & immunisation – Department of Chiropractic
CHIRO.MQ.EDU.AU

Tim Shakespeare November 25: What is your point?

Alex McLennan November 25: We were also tested on cardiomyopathy. That still doesn’t mean offering treatment advice is within our scope. Especially if our advice is in direct opposition to the current best practice and best evidence on the topic.

My point is you are trying to use one or two test questions on a topic that is covered on a basic level as justification for giving out medical advice that directly contradicts standard practice.

This also goes to the heart of this matter that really this discussion that Trent started is not out of a concern for the fairness of the legislation but rather is coming purely from an anti-vax/anti-pharma ideology. Using a Hitler quote as an allegory for what you really think about people who vaccinate and those who provide them highlights this discussion has nothing to do with what is in the public’s interest and everything to do with furthering the us vs them mentality that infiltrates a small percentage of this profession.

Tim Shakespeare November 25: Identifying cardiomyopathy as a red flag is within our scope

What about identifying neurotoxins for the nervous system?

Alex McLennan November 25: Identifying cardiomyopathy is a red flag and offering treatment advice for cardiomyopathy are completely separate issues.
What neurotoxins specifically are you referring to?

Trent Headlam November 26: You sound like a very frustrated person Alex and it is obviously clouding your judgement. How was the quote from hitler implying anything towards what I think about individuals views on vaccination? It was a quote to highlight the danger of governments taking away basic civil liberties and freedom of choice without coercion in any matter. I hope you find some happiness and peace with your life soon Alex this is an amazing life we are all blessed with so best to enjoy it.

Tim Shakespeare November 27: Alex McLennan by identifying risks how are we providing treatment?

Alex McLennan November 27:  I usually don’t respond to ad hom as it rarely is productive. However Trent, it seems your original post for this thread is muddled. I respect your passion for what you are trying to achieve, but your methods appear disjointed.

Your comments show your frustration that more people have not joined the crusade, but belittling people on facebook is never a great way to garner support where little support is present.

You then use the slippery slope fallacy as a call to arms which usually is used to engender fear around a subject so as to rally support. “What’s next??? Banned from daycare? Banned from public school? Then what? Legally mandated immunisation for every Australian? “

You then go on to say –

“This is not a vaccine debate it is a freedom of speech, choice and a right to non-discrimination.”

Yet your whole argument against this legislation is that vaccines are dangerous. Your very next sentence is

“Vaccines carry real risks to an individual that are public information and are disclosed by the manufacturer of the vaccine to the degree of a very rare adverse event being less than 1 in 10000 for one particular vaccine on the national program. Times that by 3 doses and that’s becoming a very real risk”

This is irrelevant to any discussion about the merits of the legislation, unless your agenda is anti-vax/anti-pahrma driven. Would you protest so loudly about the governments considering rainsing the price of a pack of 25 cigarettes to $40? Would you protest so strongly about a fast food tax? I think as health professionals we would all agree that these would benefit the general health of the population and in doing so raise funds that can then be used on improving access to health career provide other services. It is well documented that the cost of treating VPD in terms of dollars, time, lost productivity, and cost to families involved is more than the cost of the vaccine (even allowing for the rare adverse reactions)

Finally you use an appeal to history and an appeal to authority with “Chiropractors used to go to Jail so patients could receive an adjustment and now we won’t even make a comment about a bill that passed to our own peers in a closed group. Step up”

The last words, “Step up” are very telling when considering levels of frustration. I wouldn’t suggest that your passion is leading to frustration though as I have never met you and I can only gage from from your comments how I “think” you would be feeling.

Tim Shakespeare November 27: Please answer my question Alex McLennan.

Alex McLennan November 27: Tim, you’re contradicting yourself with your circular argument.

“If this is outside our scope why are university students tested.…”

You argue here that consulting with patients on vaccines are within our scope.

“Identifying cardiomyopathy as a red flag…”

You’re using the same line of argument to say cardiomyopathy is not within our scope.

Now, if you please, could you answer my questions.

Paul Lawrence [see more hereNovember 25: It is absolutely a civil liberties issue

Alex McLennan November 25: How?

Paul Lawrence November 25: Should you or the state have a sovereign right over your body Alex?

Alex McLennan November 25: How does this legislation take away any of my rights over my body?

Alex McLennan November 26:  In a vacuum, you should have sovereign right over your own body.

Paul Lawrence November 26: You didnt answer the question Alex.

Paul Lawrence November 26: So given we don’t live in a vacuum I must assume that you think the state should have control over your body. So answer me how is that not a civil liberties issue?

Alex McLennan November 26: No. It’s not black and white and trying to make it so is a poor argument. If you could explain to me why you think this is an attack on civil liberties, then I could give you a clearer counter point. Remembering that this legislation is about a conditional government hand out, like all of their handouts and tax breaks, and service provided.

Paul Lawrence November 26: You either have control over your body or you don’t . You can either be forced against your will or you can’t be Alex. The concern in this discussion is the right of the state or otherwise to force procedures on humans against their will. We think they shouldn’t be able to.

Alex McLennan November 27: It’s not that Black and White. If we want to live in a community, be it local, state or national, then we must abide by the laws of the land, whether we agree with them or not. The “state” holds us accountable for many different things and when our actions put at risk the lives of others in the community, then the punishment or consequence is much more severe. Look at drink/drug driving as an example. Look at laws around indecent exposure as another example. These are laws with very real consequence if broken that mandate what you can and can’t do with your body. This legislation is not forcing anyone into anything. That point seems to be getting lost in this whole argument. Paul, you’ve stated before your position on vaccination and pharmaceutical’s. This legislation is removing a handout for people who don’t fit a certain criteria. If we look at it another way, how much money would I need to pay you for you to vaccinate or have any medical intervention you were ideologically opposed to performed on your own children? If you truly are a conscientious objector and have been swayed by the research to come to that conclusion (even if it contradicts the best practice and best evidence) then no amount of money would force you into doing something you believed harmed your kids. I expect that what you’ll find from this legislation is that parents who may have forgotten or been slack in keeping up with the vaccination schedule will now have a stronger incentive to keep to the schedule. Remembering there are still medical exemptions to the schedule that allow you to still access the benefits.

Paul Lawrence November 27: Alex, if you read Trents post you will see he is asking a question that arises from observing a number of actions by the state. The question Trent asks is “what next”. It is a very valid question when we see our rights being eroded and coercion being used. Perhaps it’s ok if you believe the state only ever operates in the best interests of the people simultaneously ignoring the influence of the powerful, but our eyes are wide open and we are not trying to fool ourselves about what’s happening here. If the state wants to stop people driving drunk bashing and robbing each other we don’t have a problem with that. If they want to enforce mass medication on the population we do. Its a civil liberty issue. You are arguing they should be able to do that and at the same time telling us we shouldn’t be worried because the current legislation doesn’t mandate that. Our concern is that there are other people, like you, who feel the state should have that right and this is the direction they are heading. How stupid would we be to listen to your argument that there is nothing to worry about in the current legislation but you feel the state should have the right to enforced mass medication. You couldn’t contradict yourself more completely.

Alex McLennan November 27: Paul, have you read the legislation in question? Can you point out for me where it says that vaccination will be mandatory for all? Can you point to me where it says the state will force mass medication on its people? That idea does not fit with the current government health policies around preventative strategies to improve the populations overall health. (Increase taxes on cigarettes and alcohol, media blitz on losing weight, quitting smoking, recommended screening for cancer, heart disease etc based on age milestones) To suggest that this is some sort of plot by those with power and influence belongs in the conspiracy file unless you have solid proof that that is what is happening. That’s the thing about conspiracies, you don’t need any proof and you can cherry pick what you like to fit your own agenda – chemtrails, false flag attacks, forced medication.

You’re still using a black or white argument that doesn’t apply here. You asked me if I believe the state should have sovereign rights over your body. I answered that it is not that simple. You yourself agree that you are ok with the state having some control over our own selves.

Scott Walters November 27: While mostly I think we have all discussed this with some level of decorum, please make sure it all stays that way thank you

Paul Lawrence November 27: Sorry Scott. Perhaps I should rephrase my comment Alex. On one hand you appear to support state sanctioned mass medication. On the other hand you tell us the current legislation should give us no concern. Surely if your position is representative of others views we would have every reason to be concerned.

Gordon Benz [see more here] November 28: I’m no expert, but my Hoover vacuum broke recently and we replaced it with an Electrolux vacuum. Now I’ve got nothing against Hoover, but I think the Electrolux sucks better. At the risk of my post being screen shot by a ‘domestic duties advocate’ and misrepresented, I believe I should be entitled to share my opinion on vacuum cleaners

Adam L Smith November 30: For whoever in this forum is passing screenshots to certain bloggers and other trolls, please pass along all of my comment not just parts. To be clear, I do not discuss vaccination nor do I give advice on vaccination to my patients. I tell them I can’t advise them, and that they have to do their own research. I then respect whatever decision they make, and get on with the day. Further to my comment right at the top, even in this inter-professional forum comments are taken and used by the media against us. Please be aware that even though no patients or members of the public (should) have access to this group yours and my comments will absolutely make it out there.

Paul Lawrence November 30:  I’m already answering complaints from the so called sceptics for comments made on this group and noticed a big surge on my clinic facebook page after comments on I made on this thread. Any idea who might be passing them on Alex McLennan?

Alex McLennan November 30: Paul, no I don’t. Besides, what could anyone pass on? You refuse to answer any of my questions.

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Addendum 3

Code of conduct for chiropractors.

1.2 Professional values and qualities

[Practitioners] have a duty to keep their skills and knowledge up to date, refine and develop their clinical judgement as they gain experience, and contribute to their profession.

All practitioners have a responsibility to recognise and work within the limits of their competence, scope and areas of practice. Areas of practice vary according to different roles; for example, health practitioners, education providers, researchers and managers will all have quite different competencies and scopes of practice.

2.1 Providing good care. Introduction

a. appropriately assessing the patient, taking into account their history (history includes relevant psychological, social and cultural aspects), views and conducting an appropriate physical examination

b. ensuring that the diagnosis/clinical impression is appropriate, relevant, justifiable and based on sound clinical reasoning

d. formulating and implementing a reasonable management plan (including providing treatment/care and advice and, where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with other treating practitioners)

2.2 Good practice

a. recognising and working within the limits of the chiropractor’s competence and scope and area of practice, which may change over time

b. maintaining adequate knowledge and skills to provide safe and effective care, including providing treatment/care and advice and where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with, or referring to, other health professionals

e. considering the balance of benefit and harm in all clinical management decisions

g. providing treatment/care options based on the best available information and practising in an evidence-based context and not being influenced by financial gain or incentives

h. ensuring that services offered are provided with the best possible skill, care and competence

m. ensuring that the chiropractor’s personal views do not adversely affect the care of their patients, and

n. evaluating practice and the decisions made and action taken in providing good care.

3.4 Confidentiality and privacy

b. seeking consent from patients before disclosing or sharing information

g. ensuring that all staff are aware of the need to respect the confidentiality and privacy of patients and refrain from discussing patients in a non-professional context

j. ensuring that use of social media and e-health is consistent with the practitioner’s ethical and legal obligations to protect privacy

3.5 Informed consent

b. providing an explanation of the treatment/care recommended, its likely duration, expected benefits and cost, any alternative(s) to the proposed care, their relative risks/benefits, as well as the likely consequences of no care

c. obtaining informed consent or other valid authority before undertaking any examination or investigation, providing treatment/care (this may not be possible in an emergency) or involving patients in teaching or research, including providing information on material risks

3.6 Informed financial consent

a. ensuring that any financial agreement is based on the clinical needs of the patient

3.7 Children and young people

b. placing the interests and wellbeing of the child or young person first

d. ensuring informed consent to providing care for children involves the patient’s parent and/or guardian being provided with clinically relevant information for the chiropractic management of the child; unless a chiropractor judges that a child is of sufficient age and mental and emotional capacity to give their own consent to a service and relevant state and territory laws are complied with

e. ensuring that risks of care and alternatives to care are sufficiently explained as these are essential elements of informed consent

4.1 Use of diagnostic and therapeutic modalities in chiropractic practice

a. a full and thorough assessment of patients using tools, tests and procedures that are appropriate for the gathering of information necessary to form a reasonable diagnosis or clinical impression

c. only using diagnostic tools, tests and procedures in accordance with established protocols for their appropriate use

d. evaluating and reporting the data obtained in a contextual way to ensure that a reasonable and relevant diagnosis/clinical impression is formed, and that appropriate and necessary care is provided

e. when using tools, tests and procedures in formulating a diagnosis/clinical impression, management plan and/or for prognostic purposes, the tools used should be for conditions where there are demonstrated acceptable levels of reliability and validity, and

f. not misrepresenting the clinical value or significance of the findings of any tool, test or procedure.

5.1 Respect for colleagues and other practitioners

b. acknowledging and respecting the contribution of all practitioners involved in patient care

6.4 Public health matters

a. understanding the principles of public health, including health education, health promotion, disease prevention, and control and screening

b. participating in efforts to promote the health of the community and being aware of obligations in disease prevention, including screening and reporting notifiable diseases where relevant

6.5 Provision of care in a healthcare facility

Good practice involves:

a. seeking permission to access and provide care

b. adhering to and following the policies and procedures of the facility

c. communicating effectively with other practitioners involved in the management of the patient

d. keeping the the facility informed of any care

e. ensuring professional indemnity insurance (PII) coverage to cover care in that facility, and

f. keeping adequate records.

9.6 Advertising

a. complying with the National Board’s Advertising guidelines and relevant state and territory legislation and Commonwealth law.

b. making sure that any information published about services is factual and verifiable

10.2 Chiropractors’ health

c. understanding the principles of immunisation against communicable diseases

 

Guidelines for advertising regulated health services

6.2 Prohibited advertising under the National Law

Section 133 of the National Law prohibits advertising that:

  • is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be so
  • offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a user of the health service without stating the terms and conditions of the offer
  • uses testimonials or purported testimonials
  • creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment, and/or
  • encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of health services.

6.2.1 Misleading or deceptive advertising

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

a. Is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be misleading or deceptive

Eg:

– mislead, either directly, or by implication, use of emphasis, comparison, contrast or omission

– only provide partial information which could be misleading

– imply that the regulated health services can be a substitute for public health vaccination or immunisation

– advertise the health benefits of a regulated health service when there is no proof that such benefits can be attained, and/or

– compare different regulated health professions or practitioners, in the same profession or across professions, in a way that may mislead or deceive.

6.2.2 Gifts and discounts

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

b. Offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a person to use the service or the business, unless the advertisement also states the terms and conditions of the offer

Advertising may contravene the National Law when it:

– contains price information that is inexact

– contains price information that does not specify any terms and conditions or variables to an advertised price, or that could be considered misleading or deceptive

– states an instalment amount without stating the total cost (which is a condition of the offer), and/or

– does not state the terms and conditions of offers of gifts, discounts or other inducements.

6.2.3 Testimonials

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

c. Uses testimonials or purported testimonials about the service or business

6.2.4 Unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

d. Creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment

6.2.5 Encouraging indiscriminate or unnecessary use of health services

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

e. Directly or indirectly encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of regulated health services

 

Social media policy

When using social media, health practitioners should remember that the National Law, their National Board’s code of ethics and professional conduct (the Code of conduct) and the Guidelines for advertising regulated health services (the Advertising guidelines) apply.

Registered health practitioners should only post information that is not in breach of these obligations by:

  • complying with professional obligations
  • complying with confidentiality and privacy obligations (such as by not discussing patients or posting pictures of procedures, case studies, patients, or sensitive material which may enable patients to be identified without having obtained consent in appropriate situations)
  • presenting information in an unbiased, evidence-based context, and
  • not making unsubstantiated claims.

Additional information may be available from professional bodies and/or employers, which aims to support health practitioners’ use of social media. However, the legal, ethical, and professional obligations that registered health practitioners must adhere to are set out in the National Boards’ respective Code of conduct and the Advertising guidelines.

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Dr Kevin Coleman – the antivaxers’ champion

Dr Kevin Coleman is a general practitioner at Tuggerah Medical Centre, on the New South Wales Central Coast. Coleman publicly lists his medical employment history on his Facebook profile, including his current position at Tuggerah Medical Centre:

Coleman 3 profile GP Tuggerah married to Flavia

Coleman 21 GP Tuggereah public

Pay particular attention to the positions which Coleman has held in the past; HIV/AIDS Coordinator/Communicable Diseases at the Dubbo Public Health Unit, in NSW’s central west:

Coleman 44 pre Tuggereah history

Coleman is no stranger to professional controversy. In 2010, Coleman was cautioned by the Medical Professional Standards Committee [inquiry PDF] for undertaking an inappropriate breast exam, without permission, on a patient. From the Health Care Complaints Commission publication:

The Health Care Complaints Commission recently prosecuted a complaint against Dr Kevin Thomas Coleman, a general practitioner, before a Medical Professional Standards Committee. The complaint alleged that Dr Coleman undertook a breast examination without the patient’s consent, without explaining to the patient the reason for the examination, and that the examination was inappropriate. It was further alleged that he failed to maintain adequate medical records.

In its decision of 12 April 2010, the Committee found Dr Coleman guilty of unsatisfactory professional conduct and cautioned him.

Coleman 5 HCCC publication 2010

Coleman still has conditions attached to his registration. For example:

2. To practise only in a group practice (group is defined as at least 3 practitioners), with one other practitioner (supervisor) always on site. Nursing home and home visits are permitted if approved by the Medical Council of NSW.

3. To not consult, treat, interview or examine any female patient over the age of 13 years, whether in his surgery rooms, a nursing home or on house calls, unless a chaperone (an adult third person) is continuously present.

a) Prior to any such consultation, examination, treatment or interview, he must inform each female patient, or the parent or other adult carer of each child patient, of the necessity for a third person/chaperone to be present at all times.

And, importantly, note the final condition. Keep this in the back of your mind:

Registration is also subject to conditions that relate to personal health. Particulars are not published due to privacy considerations.

Coleman is also the co-author – with his wife, Flavia Coleman – of a book titled, Monkey Business: a Story of Soulmates and Primates. The Facebook page for the book is co-administered by both Colemans. Therefore, they are both responsible for its content:

Coleman 36 MB page owner

We first became aware of Coleman’s association with the Sydney anti-vaccination protest movement, and its sexist thugs, when we found out he had given a speech at the September 2015 protest. The video for the speeches given at this protest have never surfaced. But, we know he was there, from this public image, courtesy of Facebook:

Coleman 47 Sydney2 Brett Smith Belle Angel Lovelight Ian Hastings

1. Brett Smith; 2. Kevin Coleman; 3. Flavia Coleman;
4. Belle Angel Lovelight; 5. Ian Stanley.

Coleman’s newly-found fame was also covered in Australian Doctor, in two separate articles by Serkan Ozturk [full text of the two log-in protected articles included at the end of this post]:

Spirituality can help fight infectious disease, says GP

A doctor who was “in charge” of vaccinations while working for a NSW Government public health unit, says spirituality has played a role in driving down rates of communicable disease.

Dr Kevin Coleman, now a GP on the NSW Central Coast who says he is “not anti-vaccination across the board”, outlined his views in a submission to the Senate inquiry into the Federal Government’s proposed ‘no jab, no pay’ plan.

“We are witnessing a slow-moving tsunami of immunological dysfunction as evidenced by a steady increase in childhood cancer and allergy, and emotional–cognitive development disorders. Why?,” Dr Coleman asks.

“Like most pathologies, the answers are complex and multifactorial: but it stands to reason that vaccination is in there as ‘person of interest’.”

GP unrepentant over vaccination views

A vaccination-sceptic GP says he is unafraid of a visit from AHPRA over his controversial views that “spirituality” may be a weapon in reducing communicable disease.

Tuggerah GP Dr Kevin Coleman has told Australian Doctor that he stands by his comments made in a submission to the Senate inquiry looking into the Federal Government’s proposed ‘no jab, no pay’ Bill.

“I am concerned about this legislation. It is vexatious in my view. I don’t think we should be coercing or forcing parents into medical procedures of any kind,” Dr Coleman told Australian Doctor.

“That’s what we fought two world wars for – to preserve our freedoms.

“I really don’t care if AHPRA come after me for my views. I think if the medical establishment was doing its job – which it’s not – we would have independent outcomes about vaccines.

The No Jab No Pay legislation –  which passed through parliament, unamended – senate submission written by Coleman can be viewed, here [PDF].

What brings us to today’s post is that I have finally managed to transcribe the bulk of the speech given by Dr Kevin Coleman at the November 2015 anti-vaccination protest, which was held outside the Surry Hills offices of News Limited. I’ll include the transcript at the end of the post. This is a still from the Coleman speech:

Coleman 42 YT still

The protest was an embarrassing failure for the increasingly rabid anti-vaccination fringe. The crowd was estimated at somewhere between 15 and 20 attendees. There were more onlookers and police present, than there were protesters. This editorial from the Sunday Telegraph, on November 22 2015, gives a very succinct run-down on just how successful the anti-vaccine protests have been:

Sunday Tele November 22 2015 editorial

Here is the video of the Coleman speech. It would be pointless of the protesters to delete the video; we have several copies available should there be a request from health profession regulators:

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Some excerpts of Coleman’s speech are as follows:

00:23 There’s no question that some of you here, just looking around at some of the placards, have children who have suffered because of an adverse event following vaccination.

00:50 There’s no question that you can live a healthy life without vaccines…So they’re acknowledging that a small number of children are, have catastrophic consequences. What we’re not acknowledging is that for some children those consequences are subtle, but, all-pervasive and can be terribly detrimental for the life trajectory of those children.

Coleman alludes to vaccines being a source of criminal behaviour:

01:23 At the moment I’m dealing, counselling a lot of young men and some of whom are on probation for some sort of criminal offence…Our prisons are full of youth and older who’ve had some sort of deficit as a consequence of whatever.

Coleman asserts that there has not been enough research done on the vaccines/autism debate:

02:02 If we look at something like autism for instance…Not infrequently the mother will say “my child had a vaccine and my child was just not the same after that.” So there’s a whole range of environmental toxins, okay, inclusive I believe of vaccines that can cause damage to our children. One of the great difficulty we have is we haven’t researched this issue sufficiently…So, for instance, we know that, if we look at something like autism, and the jury’s still out.

Coleman again asserts the flawed hypotheses that vaccines have not been studied appropriately, and that post-immunisation surveillance is not adequately carried out:

03:18 So often those children are at risk and yet we tend to have one size fits all so we tend to say look all children are the same you’re through that you’re more better off being vaxed than not. And the fact is we just don’t have the information, we don’t have the research; we certainly don’t have the research around the subtle sequelae that follow from vaccination.

Coleman alleges that vaccine safety data is deliberately distorted:

03:39 And this is the difficulty; we need transparency of data; we need a more sophisticated research approach; and we need to take the parents seriously…As I said one of the big problems we have in medicine is a distortion of the data…

Coleman alleges that accusations of vaccine injury are ignored, based on the claims of the anti-vaccine activists present:

07:36 Although this is a small crowd, it’s important we voice our concerns. So I’m not gonna go and bash the parents who want to vaccinate their child and neither am I yourselves; I think your experiences are real and they’re valid. They need to be listened to and taken seriously; we need good research. We don’t have it at this stage.

Coleman alleges that general practitioners ignore the lifestyle factors of their patients in lieu of writing scripts:

07:55 Certainly I think working in general practice one is very mindful that we are, in, that how often have you gone to a GP and we try to do our best and sometimes we could do better than we do. But often it’s just script, script, script, alright? So we’ve become churning through the scripts, and we’re burying the lifestyle issues.

Alarmingly, Coleman notes that he was admitted to a stroke unit in 2009, attributing his condition to an influenza immunisation:

08:17 I used to be a passionate supporter of vaccines. I used to consider you guys the lunatic fringe. Okay? And now I’m saying well hang on, what’s going on here. I needed to be hit over the head with a bit of four-be-two. In 2009 when my patients came in for the swine flu vaccine they said “doc, are you sure this is safe because the vaccine companies are being indemnified by the government.” I said “look I’m sure it is”, so I got myself a whack in the shoulder and there you go, alright? Subsequent to that I noticed a few little splinter haemorrhages in my bed-nails, I thought nothing of it. And a little while later I found myself in the stroke unit in Gosford Hospital. I was throwing off a few emboli. It’s purely anecdotal. It doesn’t necessarily mean very much, it goes under the radar. But in my experience, when you look for it, vaccine side-effects are much more common than we actually give it credit: they’re there, and they’re not being investigated.

Coleman mistakenly equates the real harm done by vaccine preventable disease, with the many made-up claims of vaccine injury, thus doing a great disservice to those he claims to honour:

09:13 And I think that I’m honouring the parents who’ve lost children to vaccine preventable diseases, because I have seen in my career I’ve seen children who’ve been affected by, intra, you know, rubella in pregnancy and it’s devastating for those parents. Just as devastating as it is for parents whose children, whose children’s developmental trajectory has been punctuated by vaccine, they say “the child was never the same after”. So, we’re looking at both sides of the coin, both parents, both mothers deserve our compassion, and the only way through this is with impartial evidence. We’re not getting that.

Coleman continues for another five minutes,  repeating many of the claims which are made above, in what ends up being a rambling, almost incoherent stream of consciousness, devoid of logical acuity, which has little resemblance to the reality of epidemiology and immunisation adverse event surveillance. There is something very amiss with Coleman’s new-found anti-vaccination apologism, and it is time for the Medical Board of Australia to re-open an investigation into Coleman’s fitness to practice.

Looking back to Coleman’s Facebook profile, which lists his medical positions, we see equally disturbing posts from a medical professional who once worked in communicable diseases.

Only yesterday Coleman posted an article from 2011 as if it was confirmation that the Gardasil vaccine is harming vaccinees. It isn’t. The court case discussed never went anywhere, and any self-respecting medical professional would not post such unsubstantiated rubbish four years after the alleged vaccine harm never even made it into a courtroom:

Coleman 43 Gardasil CM 2011

On November 11 2015 Coleman degraded the memories of all who fought against real oppression by grubbily linking Armistice Day with the promotion of anti-vaccinationism:

Coleman 39 NJNP armistice day

On October 21 2015 Coleman posted the anti-vaccination staple: the contaminated polio vaccine gambit. What he doesn’t mention is that, although this information has been readily accessible for many years, no one has been confirmed to have suffered any complications from the over-fifty-year-old contamination:

Coleman 37 polio cancer virus

Another anti-vaccine post, from June 2015. Collective Evolution,  no less:

Coleman 15 antivax doctor support

And then there is Coleman’s inexplicable advocacy of Ian Gawler’s treatments, including anti-chemotherapy/oncologist comments:

Coleman 14 Gawler blog post

Coleman 16 Gawler

Coleman 19 promoting Gawler cancer treatment

Coleman 20 chemo Gawler

And Coleman has also been active in a closed anti-vaccination Facebook group, called Unvaccinated Australia. Some bizarre claims – made in agreement with this delusional post – were made by Coleman only last night:

Coleman 45 UA OP Tyranny

Kevin Coleman I agree this is Tyranny. Aussies are asleep. But the number of harmed will grow incrementally. We will wake up eventually

Kevin Coleman Aggressive ping pong will just perpetuate the cycle of violence, my friend. We got to fight for transparency. Look at the ISIS phenomena. Firm commitment to transparency, compassion and justice. You need to teach your son the power of constructive passion. Aluta continua! The struggle continues. We will overcome

Coleman 46 UA tyrrany cont harmed by vax will grow

Coleman’s Facebook page is certainly no better.

This is crazy stuff; make no mistake. And Coleman is responsible for this content:

Coleman 26 MB vaccine cancer

Coleman 28 MB anti pharma

Coleman 30 MB tetanus vaccine

Coleman 31 MB anti pharma

Coleman 33 MB Gates pharma

Coleman 34 MB truth about vax

Coleman 35 MB Horowitz YT

Remember, Coleman worked in public health, as the HIV/AIDS Coordinator, in Dubbo:

Coleman 32 MB AIDS cure YT

And more cancer cure conspiracy crankery:

Coleman 29 MB cancer cure

Hopefully we’ve included enough here to make the Medical Board of Australia, and the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission, sit up in fright. Coleman is now a public health concern which needs to be addressed, immediately. I mean, when you are a star of Ian Hastings’ No Vaccines Australia Facebook page, you know your claw marks are present on the bottom of that rusty barrel:

Coleman 41 NVA Protest3 Sydney November 20 2015

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Update November 28 2015

Two hours after this blog post went live Coleman posted the 2011 Gardasil article again, along with a stream of unrelated gibberish to, I guess, substantiate his silly behaviour:

Coleman 48 Gardasil CM again Nov 28

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Addendum 1: Transcript of Coleman Sydney speech

00:23 There’s no question that some of you here, just looking around at some of the placards, have children who have suffered because of an adverse event following vaccination.

00:50 There’s no question that you can live a healthy life without vaccines. There’ll be an attempt to bring in a compensation scheme for children who are severely damaged by vaccines. So they’re acknowledging that a small number of children are, have catastrophic consequences. What we’re not acknowledging is that for some children those consequences are subtle, but, all-pervasive and can be terribly detrimental for the life trajectory of those children.

01:23 At the moment I’m dealing, counselling a lot of young men and some of whom are on probation for some sort of criminal offence; it’s often trivial but there can be a whole host of things from driving under the influence or domestic violence, or an assault, all sorts of things. What we do know is that a lot of, when you go, go down and grind down and started looking at how people are functioning, their cognitive functioning, their emotional functioning, often there are deficits. Our prisons are full of youth and older who’ve had some sort of deficit as a consequence of whatever.

02:02 If we look at something like autism for instance, and there’s a whole spectrum of autistic problems, some of those children when you speak to, or you listen to the stories, okay, some children have had scarlet fever and after that the mother says the child just wasn’t the same after that. Not infrequently the mother will say “my child had a vaccine and my child was just not the same after that.” So there’s a whole range of environmental toxins, okay, inclusive I believe of vaccines that can cause damage to our children. One of the great difficulty we have is we haven’t researched this issue sufficiently.

02:44 So, for instance, we know that, if we look at something like autism, and the jury’s still out, if we look at autism, we know that the children who are at risk are the children whose mothers have had a lack of oxygen or ischaemia or hypoxia during birth or some other intra-uterine insult. Let’s say the mum has had a severe bowel infection during pregnancy, or she has a difficult delivery, a Caesar and the baby’s been without oxygen for a while, more in fact if the child is male.

03:18 So often those children are at risk and yet we tend to have one size fits all so we tend to say look all children are the same you’re through that you’re more better off being vaxed than not. And the fact is we just don’t have the information, we don’t have the research; we certainly don’t have the research around the subtle sequelae that follow from vaccination.

03:39 And this is the difficulty; we need transparency of data; we need a more sophisticated research approach; and we need to take the parents seriously. Whether it might be a mum or a dad; whether or not you’re a teacher, a doctor, a pharmacist, or a police officer, or whoever, right, you guys as parents know your child better than anyone else, you know your children; and you’ll know that something’s not right; you’ll know that there’s been a punctuating event, whatever that is, you’re the expert on your children. And I think it’s important that if the parents are concerned to take it seriously. As I said one of the big problems we have in medicine is a distortion of the data…

06:03 We fought two world wars for freedom in this country.

06:28 Whether or not you’re provax or antivax often parents are passionate about the welfare of their children; they’re very really concerned, okay, and so that I think that the point here to this is the vaccine, but, there’s other factors as well. And often we’ve ignored the environmental and lifestyle factors. With autism up until the present time for instance we’re told, well, it’s poly-genetic. There’s something wrong with your genes: that’s why your child has got autism. We hear the same sort of thing with cancer. Whereas we know that really the major cause of, whether it be neurological dysfunction in our children, autoimmune disease in our children, we’re seeing a lot of allergy now that we weren’t seeing a generation ago. So all the rising rates of cancer, there’s something going wrong with our human immune system; there’s something wrong here that we need to explore further and take seriously

07:36 Although this is a small crowd, it’s important we voice our concerns. So I’m not gonna go and bash the parents who want to vaccinate their child and neither am I yourselves; I think your experiences are real and they’re valid. They need to be listened to and taken seriously; we need good research. We don’t have it at this stage.

07:55 Certainly I think working in general practice one is very mindful that we are, in, that how often have you gone to a GP and we try to do our best and sometimes we could do better than we do. But often it’s just script, script, script, alright? So we’ve become churning through the scripts, and we’re burying the lifestyle issues.

08:17 I used to be a passionate supporter of vaccines. I used to consider you guys the lunatic fringe. Okay? And now I’m saying well hang on, what’s going on here. I needed to be hit over the head with a bit of four-be-two. In 2009 when my patients came in for the swine flu vaccine they said “doc, are you sure this is safe because the vaccine companies are being indemnified by the government.” I said “look I’m sure it is”, so I got myself a whack in the shoulder and there you go, alright? Subsequent to that I noticed a few little splinter haemorrhages in my bed-nails, I thought nothing of it. And a little while later I found myself in the stroke unit in Gosford Hospital. I was throwing off a few emboli. It’s purely anecdotal. It doesn’t necessarily mean very much, it goes under the radar. But in my experience, when you look for it, vaccine side-effects are much more common than we actually give it credit: they’re there, and they’re not being investigated.

09:13 And I think that I’m honouring the parents who’ve lost children to vaccine preventable diseases, because I have seen in my career I’ve seen children who’ve been affected by, intra, you know, rubella in pregnancy and it’s devastating for those parents. Just as devastating as it is for parents whose children, whose children’s developmental trajectory has been punctuated by vaccine, they say “the child was never the same after”. So, we’re looking at both sides of the coin, both parents, both mothers deserve our compassion, and the only way through this is with impartial evidence. We’re not getting that.

09:52 So, you’ve heard a lot about the malfeasance, about the corruption within the medical system, it is there unfortunately. As I said, some of that is out-and-out corruption; some of that is perhaps just bias; and some of it is wishful thinking. So we can all be hypnotised by our paradigm. And I think that within medicine we’ve been very focussed on the drugs and not enough on lifestyle. Now lifestyle’s incredibly important, okay?

10:22 If you look at something like meningococcus, which is a terrible disease, and I’ve certainly cared for children in intensive care units who’ve been saved, but, they’ve lost their nose, their ears, there’s fingers, there’s toes, it’s a terrible situation. And certainly speaking as a doctor who’s seen this I’ve said “my God bring on the vaccine I don’t want to see this I don’t want to have to deal with this”. And every other day you’ll hear about the wonders of the meningococcal vaccine and how important it is.

10:49 But what we don’t hear about, what we don’t hear about, is that in families and households where there’s a smoker the mortality rate, the infant mortality rate is four to twenty-fold increase in a smoking household. And that’s not to put down some of you good people who may be smokers – the underlying problem’s trauma that hasn’t been dealt with – so the thing is what we need is parents who have children who have been, we need a transparent and level playing field. We need to listen to all the mums and all the dads about what’s happened to their children.

11:23 The only way through this, and these are very emotionally charged issues, you’ll find that this is polarising and that polarisation is not always helpful; because what we’re looking for is the truth and the truth is that, yes, vaccines do some good. Yes, vaccines do some harm. Yes, you can live a good, healthy life without vaccines. And yes, there is, there are issues around protecting our children and how we best do that. These are difficult issues. The only way through this is with impartial research at arm’s length from industry. We really need this. We need the research, but, it needs to be impartial.

12:00 At the moment I feel that general practice is really letting us down, because it’s really focussed on prescribing the drug. So what we need is, is to empower general practice with front end loading, alright? Front…loading the database in…loading the database about what are the symptoms, what problems, what potential problems here. When was the vaccines given? What was the side effect? What really get up to get that information out? So until we’ve got a level playing field, until we’ve got the research, we’re gonna have this polarisation.

12:33 So, parents deserve to be heard. And you’ve heard a lot of very good speakers here; I’m giving you just a slice from the medical opinion. It’s not straight forward. When I’ve raised this issues with my colleagues a lot were vilifying me, but, quite a number were anonymously saying “look I agree with you but I’m not prepared to [inaudible] anonymous”. So the thing is we need transparency, we need to get away from scapegoating people, as being fruit loops, or the lunatic fringe. We need to get the data; we need to analyse it at arm’s length.

13:04 We need to remain steadfast and united. We need to push for transparency. We need to push for a moratorium on this. I’m very mindful that they’re going to bring in this compulsory, well, I don’t know, there’s vaccination for mothers.

13:19 The big problem in science is you need your case controls ideally randomised to see what’s happening to the kids who were vaccinated, what’s happening to the kids who weren’t vaccinated. What are the subtle changes we’re missing and what are the very early situations we’re missing when a child’s first born there’s that gauge with the mother, there’s that interaction with the mum, okay, we don’t have any way of clinically recording that, unless you go looking for the data, unless you go looking for the clinical signs, and often parents will say “there’s something not right here”, we need better science and better replication of science to sort this thing out. In the meantime, okay, the best thing we can do for our children is a healthy lifestyle, and address the [inaudible] a healthy lifestyle, a plant-based diet, avoid the smoking, if you are a smoker get some help, okay? And be passionate about your children and try to…just keep searching for the truth. Thanks you all.

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Addendum 2: Australian Doctor article by Serkan Ozturk

Spirituality can help fight infectious disease, says GP

Serkan Ozturk | 9 November, 2015

A doctor who was “in charge” of vaccinations while working for a NSW Government public health unit, says spirituality has played a role in driving down rates of communicable disease.

Dr Kevin Coleman, now a GP on the NSW Central Coast who says he is “not anti-vaccination across the board”, outlined his views in a submission to the Senate inquiry into the Federal Government’s proposed ‘no jab, no pay’ plan.

“We are witnessing a slow-moving tsunami of immunological dysfunction as evidenced by a steady increase in childhood cancer and allergy, and emotional–cognitive development disorders. Why?,” Dr Coleman asks.

“Like most pathologies, the answers are complex and multifactorial: but it stands to reason that vaccination is in there as ‘person of interest’.”

He says that childhood mumps offers a degree of protection against ovarian cancer, but this is “forfeited by those who are vaccinated”.

“There is NO doubt that the major advances in the control of communicable diseases have come with public health measures of: clean water, sanitation, good nutrition, and healthy social relationships and spirituality.”

Dr Coleman says he has more than 35 years of experience in family medicine.

“I was formerly [the] medical officer in charge of communicable disease/vaccinations for Western NSW, whilst working for the Western NSW public health unit in Dubbo and briefly served on the Hepatitis Advisory Committee for NSW in 1994,” his submission states.

“I believe the so called ‘anti vaccers’ need be given the respect they deserve. Their observations are not to be dismissed — but heeded.

“We’ve fought two world wars for our democratic freedoms.

“I am not anti-vaccination across the board – but I do have strong reservations about the way vaccines are marketed, the hype regarding their efficacy, the lack of transparency in the research data and interpretation,” Dr Coleman writes.

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Addendum 3: Australian Doctor article by Serkan Ozturk

GP unrepentant over vaccination views

Serkan Ozturk | 11 November, 2015

A vaccination-sceptic GP says he is unafraid of a visit from AHPRA over his controversial views that “spirituality” may be a weapon in reducing communicable disease.

Tuggerah GP Dr Kevin Coleman has told Australian Doctor that he stands by his comments made in a submission to the Senate inquiry looking into the Federal Government’s proposed ‘no jab, no pay’ Bill.

“I am concerned about this legislation. It is vexatious in my view. I don’t think we should be coercing or forcing parents into medical procedures of any kind,” Dr Coleman told Australian Doctor.

“That’s what we fought two world wars for – to preserve our freedoms.

“I really don’t care if AHPRA come after me for my views. I think if the medical establishment was doing its job – which it’s not – we would have independent outcomes about vaccines.

“Unfortunately medicine has got such a cosy relationship with big business and the pharmaceutical industry that it has lost its boundary.”

In his submission, the former Western NSW public health unit employee, who was once “in charge” of vaccinations and communicable diseases, claimed that not only could spirituality help lower rates of disease, but that vaccines themselves were likely contributing to a range of health problems affecting modern societies.

“We’re vaccinating ourselves into a very dangerous situation where we are sabotaging our natural immunity,” Dr Coleman told Australian Doctor.

“What we have now, because of successive vaccination campaigns, is a situation where mums are becoming pregnant and they don’t have that advantage of that early infection during their own childhood. So there is no trans-placental transfer of immunity.”

Dr Coleman said he felt sorry for doctors who might scoff at his suggestion that spirituality had any significant part to play in driving down disease.

“A lot of us, I would say, when we’re in the shit and sweating on it out the back of buggery, would say our prayers. And sometimes those prayers are answers. That’s my view and I’ll stand by it,” he said.

“We’re talking about ‘psychoneuro’ immunology. Meditation and yoga – these spiritual disciplines we know that they enhance health. I would say that there is a place for prayer.”

When prompted by Australian Doctor, Dr Coleman said his own children had been vaccinated but argued that it was in a “different context”.

“It was yonks ago in rural South Africa, where there are high rates of HIV and TB,” he said.

“I think that vaccinating children and having collateral damage without good data – and we know that the industry is not providing open access to data – well, I think that is institutionalised abuse.”

Dr Coleman, who in his submission described himself as “not anti-vaccination across the board”, also said that he had in recent months attended protest rallies organised by the anti-vaccination group, the Australian Vaccination-Skeptics Network (AVN).

When asked whether he believed vaccines caused autism, Dr Coleman said it was possible.

“It may well be that vaccines may be part of the problem in terms of causing autism,” he said.

“We don’t know as we don’t have the data. We need research and long-term studies. We need to apply the science in an independent way. It needs to have distance from the pharmaceutical industry.”

In 2010, Dr Coleman was the subject of disciplinary action by the Medical Board after he was found guilty of undertaking a breast examination on a female patient without consent.

Despite that finding, Dr Coleman said he was prepared to fight for his views to be heard.

“The problem of bullying and the lack of ethics starts right at the top with the Australian Medical Board and it trickles down,” he said. “I’m prepared to own that.

“In the earlier part of my career, I would have been very appalled by what I’m saying now. But I’ve had a chance to back off and reflect on what’s going on here and look more closely at the data.”

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Anti-vaccine chiropractors 65 – another CAA AVN supporter

[Originally published as Anti-vaccine chiropractors
redux 15 – another CAA AVN supporter]

Over two years ago, on August 8 2013, the Chiropractic Board of Australia issued a press release announcing it was “cracking down” on anti-vaccination misinformation from chiropractors:

The Chiropractic Board of Australia cracks down to protect the public.

The Chiropractic Board of Australia is cracking down on chiropractors who step outside their primary role as healthcare practitioners and provide treatment that puts the public at risk.

To protect public safety, the Board has:

  • ordered practitioners to remove all anti-vaccination material from their websites and clinics
  • removed several courses from the list of approved CPD programs, and
  • introduced random audits of practitioner compliance with the Board’s registration standards.

And, yet, here we are.

Today’s star is Stacy Budlender, who operates a business called Caulfield Family Chiropractic, in Melbourne. Budlender is a member of the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia, the Gonstead Society, and the US anti-vaccination chiropractic pediatric organisation, the ICPA. From Health Engine:

Budlender 20 CAA ICPA Gonstead member Health Engine

Alarmingly, Budlender’s website states that she treats the following:

Ear Infections

ADHD Management

Bed Wetting

Colic

Chronic Fatigue

Budlender 29 website list of conditions ADHD bedwetting ear infect colic

Just over one month ago Budlender’s website also claimed that chiropractic was used to treat autism. I would say that Twitter put an end to this bio page, which no longer exists:

Budlender 12 autistic childtren

Budlender uses both her business Facebook page, as well as her Facebook profile, to conduct her business and promote chiropractic; as we can see from these screenshots:

Budlender 2 Caulfield chiro profile

And:

Budlender 3 profile Caulfield

Only yesterday, November 24 2015, we found Budlender rallying support against the new No Jab No Pay legislation – I’m guessing – on the Facebook page of the disgraced anti-vaccination organisation, the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network. As you can see, hovering over her name reveals her trade, and her business:

should we be posting our opposition on the governments facebook page? I have voted liberal til now, never again.

Budlender 13 AVN comment Nov 24 2015

On October 8 2015, Budlender asked an astonishing question on the AVN page:

Where could I find information on vaccine induced strokes. A 13 month old had multiple strokes and wondering if there’s a connection?

Budlender 1 AVN info request

In 2011, Budlender liked this IMCV anti-vaccine post on the AVN page. The now broken link leads with this text:

The needle nuts are at it again…

Budlender 17 2011 like AVN

“Needle nuts”. It still cracks me up, four years later.

And even back in 2010, Budlender was making astonishing anti-vaccine claims in support of the AVN:

Budlender 18 2010 AVN op

Stacy Budlender Thankfully I have a wholistic gp who has no probs with not vacc. We have the most problems with the inlaws who say we are jeopardizing our sons life and it’s illegal not to vacc. That we can’t imagine the risks we’re placing on this poor innocent child blah blah!! They don’t want to know the truth, can’t even finish a sentence. Very frustrating considering her son and other grandchild r typical cases of long term vacc affects. Asthma, eczema, allergies, chrojns, colitis, diabetes and learning disorders!!

Budlender 19 AVN 2010

Meanwhile, over on Budlender’s profile we see the anti-vaccine propaganda flowing, Firstly we see the lies about Gardasil:

Budlender 14 profile Gardasil kills

We also see unsubstantiated stories of alleged vaccine harm being treated as fact:

Budlender 15 Rage aginst the vaccines

Across many of Budlender’s online fora I allege several substantial breaches of the Code of Conduct, the Guidelines for advertising regulated health services, and the Social Media Policy of the CBA. I will add a series of commonly breached sections of the previous at the end of this post, for ease of future access.

This section has been removed from Budlender’s website, so no longer applies:

Budlender 9 website ear infections colds bedwetting tonsilitis etc

There are, however, still many breaches – similar to the above – on Budlender’s Facebook page.

The increase in autism diagnoses, without identifying that the main reason for the increase is better identification and a broadening of criteria:

Budlender 6 autism

Questionable claims from the ICPA about pregnancy and chiropractic care:

Budlender 10 ICPA pregnant women

The cell phone meme:

Budlender 11 phone reception sublux

Chiropractic treatment of ear infections:

Budlender 21 CFC ear infections

Adjusting a child. Why? What is this treatment for?

Budlender 22 video child adjustment

Again, what reason – using reputable evidence – is there for babies to be treated by a chiropractor, because the baby is “not feeling great”? Why is this marketing allowed in a regulated health profession?

Budlender 23 baby dress ups

This post is just outrageous:

A few times a week I often get asked why I adjust newborn babies and kids…

The simple answer is birth can be extremely traumatic!
Our children have more physical, chemical and emotional stress then ever before in the history of mankind.

I often see babies with difficulty nursing, who suffer from reflux, colic and constipation, children with chronic respiratory and ear infections. Even kids with Autism, behavioral issues and ADHD. Even a vaginal birth can be very traumatic to baby! With kids these days, the sky’s the limits. We have sicker kids today then ever before.

This is why Dr Stacy has completed Post grad studies in Paeds and now Dr Jake is starting his own Post grad Paed course.

Everyone should have their baby checked by a chiropractor who specializes in pediatric care. Your children deserve it. For more information, please check out our website

Budlender 24 ADHD autism birth trauma etc

Ah, yes; Palmer’s Wager: can you really afford not to believe in the power of the innate? Are you really going to gamble on your child’s health, by not seeing a chiropractor?

Budlender 26 nerve function babies

Why is this child being adjusted, and used for chiropractic cradle-to-grave marketing? What is the evidence base for this?

Budlender 28 daughter adjustment

More claims that chiropractic can treat ear infections:

Budlender 30 ear infections 2014

Over on Budlender’s profile we see the claim that chiropractic adjustments of subluxations can treat asthma:

Budlender 16 profile asthma cured by chiro

Testimonials also  come in many forms. They are illegal. The chiropractor has a duty to have them removed from view.

Budlender 4 testimonial

Who gives themselves 5 Stars?

Budlender 5 gave self 5 stars

This is online marketing. This is a testimonial:

Budlender 25 testimonial photo chronic symptoms

This is a customer featuring in or making a claim about the service.This is a testimonial:

Budlender 31 baby crawling photo testimonial 2014

This link to a YouTube testimonial is against the law:

Budlender 7 YT video testimonial

And this link to another YouTube testimonial video is against the law:

Budlender 27 YT reviews vid testimonials July

Thanks for  reading.

As stated above, here’s a general list of common breaches from which the reader can pick, should they wish to lodge a complaint over anything they’ve read today:

Code of conduct for chiropractors.

1.2 Professional values and qualities

[Practitioners] have a duty to keep their skills and knowledge up to date, refine and develop their clinical judgement as they gain experience, and contribute to their profession.

All practitioners have a responsibility to recognise and work within the limits of their competence, scope and areas of practice. Areas of practice vary according to different roles; for example, health practitioners, education providers, researchers and managers will all have quite different competencies and scopes of practice.

2.1 Providing good care. Introduction

a. appropriately assessing the patient, taking into account their history (history includes relevant psychological, social and cultural aspects), views and conducting an appropriate physical examination

b. ensuring that the diagnosis/clinical impression is appropriate, relevant, justifiable and based on sound clinical reasoning

d. formulating and implementing a reasonable management plan (including providing treatment/care and advice and, where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with other treating practitioners)

2.2 Good practice

a. recognising and working within the limits of the chiropractor’s competence and scope and area of practice, which may change over time

b. maintaining adequate knowledge and skills to provide safe and effective care, including providing treatment/care and advice and where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with, or referring to, other health professionals

e. considering the balance of benefit and harm in all clinical management decisions

g. providing treatment/care options based on the best available information and practising in an evidence-based context and not being influenced by financial gain or incentives

h. ensuring that services offered are provided with the best possible skill, care and competence

m. ensuring that the chiropractor’s personal views do not adversely affect the care of their patients, and

n. evaluating practice and the decisions made and action taken in providing good care.

3.4 Confidentiality and privacy

b. seeking consent from patients before disclosing or sharing information

g. ensuring that all staff are aware of the need to respect the confidentiality and privacy of patients and refrain from discussing patients in a non-professional context

j. ensuring that use of social media and e-health is consistent with the practitioner’s ethical and legal obligations to protect privacy

3.5 Informed consent

b. providing an explanation of the treatment/care recommended, its likely duration, expected benefits and cost, any alternative(s) to the proposed care, their relative risks/benefits, as well as the likely consequences of no care

c. obtaining informed consent or other valid authority before undertaking any examination or investigation, providing treatment/care (this may not be possible in an emergency) or involving patients in teaching or research, including providing information on material risks

3.6 Informed financial consent

a. ensuring that any financial agreement is based on the clinical needs of the patient

3.7 Children and young people

b. placing the interests and wellbeing of the child or young person first

d. ensuring informed consent to providing care for children involves the patient’s parent and/or guardian being provided with clinically relevant information for the chiropractic management of the child; unless a chiropractor judges that a child is of sufficient age and mental and emotional capacity to give their own consent to a service and relevant state and territory laws are complied with

e. ensuring that risks of care and alternatives to care are sufficiently explained as these are essential elements of informed consent

4.1 Use of diagnostic and therapeutic modalities in chiropractic practice

a. a full and thorough assessment of patients using tools, tests and procedures that are appropriate for the gathering of information necessary to form a reasonable diagnosis or clinical impression

c. only using diagnostic tools, tests and procedures in accordance with established protocols for their appropriate use

d. evaluating and reporting the data obtained in a contextual way to ensure that a reasonable and relevant diagnosis/clinical impression is formed, and that appropriate and necessary care is provided

e. when using tools, tests and procedures in formulating a diagnosis/clinical impression, management plan and/or for prognostic purposes, the tools used should be for conditions where there are demonstrated acceptable levels of reliability and validity, and

f. not misrepresenting the clinical value or significance of the findings of any tool, test or procedure.

5.1 Respect for colleagues and other practitioners

b. acknowledging and respecting the contribution of all practitioners involved in patient care

6.4 Public health matters

a. understanding the principles of public health, including health education, health promotion, disease prevention, and control and screening

b. participating in efforts to promote the health of the community and being aware of obligations in disease prevention, including screening and reporting notifiable diseases where relevant

6.5 Provision of care in a healthcare facility

Good practice involves:

a. seeking permission to access and provide care

b. adhering to and following the policies and procedures of the facility

c. communicating effectively with other practitioners involved in the management of the patient

d. keeping the the facility informed of any care

e. ensuring professional indemnity insurance (PII) coverage to cover care in that facility, and

f. keeping adequate records.

9.6 Advertising

a. complying with the National Board’s Advertising guidelines and relevant state and territory legislation and Commonwealth law.

b. making sure that any information published about services is factual and verifiable

10.2 Chiropractors’ health

c. understanding the principles of immunisation against communicable diseases

 

Guidelines for advertising regulated health services

6.2 Prohibited advertising under the National Law

Section 133 of the National Law prohibits advertising that:

  • is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be so
  • offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a user of the health service without stating the terms and conditions of the offer
  • uses testimonials or purported testimonials
  • creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment, and/or
  • encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of health services.

6.2.1 Misleading or deceptive advertising

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

a. Is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be misleading or deceptive

Eg:

– mislead, either directly, or by implication, use of emphasis, comparison, contrast or omission

– only provide partial information which could be misleading

– imply that the regulated health services can be a substitute for public health vaccination or immunisation

– advertise the health benefits of a regulated health service when there is no proof that such benefits can be attained, and/or

– compare different regulated health professions or practitioners, in the same profession or across professions, in a way that may mislead or deceive.

6.2.2 Gifts and discounts

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

b. Offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a person to use the service or the business, unless the advertisement also states the terms and conditions of the offer

Advertising may contravene the National Law when it:

– contains price information that is inexact

– contains price information that does not specify any terms and conditions or variables to an advertised price, or that could be considered misleading or deceptive

– states an instalment amount without stating the total cost (which is a condition of the offer), and/or

– does not state the terms and conditions of offers of gifts, discounts or other inducements.

6.2.3 Testimonials

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

c. Uses testimonials or purported testimonials about the service or business

6.2.4 Unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

d. Creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment

6.2.5 Encouraging indiscriminate or unnecessary use of health services

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

e. Directly or indirectly encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of regulated health services

 

Social media policy

When using social media, health practitioners should remember that the National Law, their National Board’s code of ethics and professional conduct (the Code of conduct) and the Guidelines for advertising regulated health services (the Advertising guidelines) apply.

Registered health practitioners should only post information that is not in breach of these obligations by:

  • complying with professional obligations
  • complying with confidentiality and privacy obligations (such as by not discussing patients or posting pictures of procedures, case studies, patients, or sensitive material which may enable patients to be identified without having obtained consent in appropriate situations)
  • presenting information in an unbiased, evidence-based context, and
  • not making unsubstantiated claims.

Additional information may be available from professional bodies and/or employers, which aims to support health practitioners’ use of social media. However, the legal, ethical, and professional obligations that registered health practitioners must adhere to are set out in the National Boards’ respective Code of conduct and the Advertising guidelines.

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